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and good afternoon from Philadelphia

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Frank here and James coming in from

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Westchester New York and this is UFO

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News Network Sunday with our second

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Twitter circle roundtable a

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record-breaking panel here today we've

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got six six count on my UFO nuts talk

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about UFOs for the next hour plus let's

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not waste any time let's bring out this

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esteemed panel in first off never been

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on the show before making his debut

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appearance here and I think perhaps is

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Davey debut appearance on any kind of

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UFO talk show or panel discussion show

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the man himself if George Knapp is the

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president of your fan club you're doing

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something right Ryan from post

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disclosure world Ryan how are you today

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I'm doing great it's uh it's wonderful

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to be on your show it's a real honor to

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have you it really is absolutely next up

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we've got a guy who was with us earlier

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this year and as a guest he's Chris

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Chris Walford investigator researcher

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Chris thanks for making the same mistake

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twice I really appreciated you're

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welcome thank you for having me on there

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Chris is with us all the way over from

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we have Twitter user J a lot of the news

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that we're gonna be covering took place

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over in Europe so Twitter user Jay

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thanks for coming on board I know you're

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gonna have a lot to share with us today

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appreciate it thank you very much for

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having me back up on Isis peak tool I'm

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sure a look bought to the show should be

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good yeah yeah definitely and last but

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not least Danny Silva he's got his new

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website up and running yes since the

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last time he was on with a silver record

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calm Danny has had a busy week and he

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informed us via Twitter last night and

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asked for all the world to see he's got

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a big announcement for us today

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so like Danny let's not waste any time

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but thanks for coming back and what's

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the big news you've got for us

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um man thank you for having me I really

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like touching you guys it's so much fun

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I was kind of just gonna work it in I

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might have oversold it a little bit on

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Twitter but basically what Dave Beatty

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our good friend Dave Beatty told me I

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don't know if you all saw the the Steve

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Bassett press release oh you had he was

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doing yeah so um actually let me get the

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it was Bassett is sending out the movie

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the Nimitz Encounters movie - I think he

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said 1000 media outlets along with the

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press release and then after that he's

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congressional connections so it's pretty

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Encounters movie and it's like this huge

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tool now that we can show to people so

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gonna be a big thing and you know to the

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stars Academy is watching that

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politicians are watching it everyone is

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watching this stuff we can show it to

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skeptics we can show it to people that

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have never heard about the event so it's

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just it's really cool such a great job

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on that I know we're gonna talk about it

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a bit later in the show but you know

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know really put you in the perspective

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of being like a pilot or something and

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much you know much more shocking I guess

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than just know reading about the story

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or even seeing the gun camera footage

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yeah it shows everything and it spells

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it out for you did you see the new post

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mentioning Gary Voorhies yeah and that

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documentary or something coming out in

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yeah it definitely is and it seems like

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it was Mellon who is Chris Mellon who

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was doing some of the interviews so

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be part of this show yeah that's awesome

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Mellon interviewed Gary and then Tom and

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seen those pictures so we know that

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happens so they are busy yet producing

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TV shows well let's say let's get to the

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news a couple weeks back

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presentation that and we were able to

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catch it live able to do a little bit of

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group on Facebook of UFO news network

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group and it's pretty interesting it was

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a very entertaining I guess maybe hour

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and a half or so that they ran DeLong

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started things off and as per usual he

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had some interesting things to say it

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surprised and I go through a lot of

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material but basically he said that what

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he's doing for UFOs

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what Elon Musk and Bob Bigelow are doing

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for prime space travel okay and he also

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work on artificial intelligence projects

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and antigravity so that was Tom

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statement right now what are you saying

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I see it taking a wait-and-see attitude

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anybody else have any kind of thoughts

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on those types of extravagant claims

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to sell defense Contract no I think

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that's certainly where they're going and

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toes saying hey if we don't get a first

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governments they're able to access some

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databases you know they can they can

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materials that they have you know even

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footage you know just say that you know

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the Rome has you know Italy has footage

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that they're they likely brought cameras

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the scenes stuff and yeah they might

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my the panel any thoughts on where

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database comment that he wants to be

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doing a database with AI and ever since

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government database that really clicked

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really huge story Jay was digging into

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it I'm on Twitter he he referenced the

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valet database there was a capella and I

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just think there's a database is a

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really big deal there's like the you

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other things that are in there I think

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yeah presentation itself it's got all

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kinds of interesting stuff in there the

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kind of things that they're looking for

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visit to the phenomenon these kind of

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things and when I was looking through

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capella database I found some details

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about bass and actually some of the US

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documents as well which is fascinating

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there were some really interesting parts

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in the search she referred to vas in

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some of these official documents and

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they say that bass is an organization

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devoted to the

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exploration extremely advanced aerospace

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technology you know when you see this

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kind of blows your mind really and it

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seems to be licensed to backup exactly

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what Bigelow is looking into and and

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with needs and bass all this kind of

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stuff and even said that you know the

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FAA was to send reports to vests you

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know encounters I mean that's that's

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pretty insane you know you have a you

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know a government funded agency sending

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UFO reports to a private well now we

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know that bass actually had defense

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contracts tolling also reports it refers

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to the nibs as well so which was the

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previous scientific organization that

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was headed up by Bigelow as well so it

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talks about that they used to send all

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of the files and data to knits it says

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now that knids is defunct

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you need to send all of the data now to

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bass and it's positive numbers as email

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addresses and all that kind of stuff

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they're sending this information through

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to bass in official documents which is

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pretty mind-blowing really yes it's also

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kind of cool just that we get to hear

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from DeLong you know I don't think we

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have really heard from them in 2018 at

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all even though this was really short it

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was cool that he talked and other than

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like some of those q and A's from the

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book releases this has been it for 2018

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yeah yeah I think if there's a Rogen

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thing he kind of you know took a step

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back and I expect that he's the guy as

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the the sit-downs with the TV networks

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and that gets those deals put together

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to I expect exactly that's a that's a

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lot where his efforts are going these

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days yeah yeah what you back through the

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Rogen interview just a couple of days

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ago but it seems to me you know he got a

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lot of slack for that interview

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everything he was saying

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that was going to be coming out has

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either come out already

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or seems like it might be coming out

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over the next few months we need to see

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some of the results of some of these

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experiments on the material that he was

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Ferenc to a lot of what he was talking

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about is is come to pass so I loved that

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I thought it was great everyone you know

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a lot of people who are critiquing it I

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thought it was great and then Rogen's

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critiques were before the New York Times

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released that stuff so I feel like he

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kind of had to eat his words which he

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didn't the interview seemed to go

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very early on along if you remember

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asked there Rogen specifically you know

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have you've done a lot of research on

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this have you really looked into it and

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Rogan said no he knows quite a lot he

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actually knows the Bob Lazar story quite

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well and he also knows Whitley

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streamer's story very well too in fact

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he was just talking about Willie

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streamer - I want to say about what

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least rear excuse me - another comic and

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he was describing to the other comic

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that he was a science fiction writer

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then all sudden he got this idea oh I

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I'm gonna go in this direction that I

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was abducted so he kind of shifted gears

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and made his audience and that comedian

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think that you know Willie streamers

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just making this stuff up and I mean I

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don't know about you guys but it doesn't

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seem that he's making anything up well

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Rogan Rogan has gone on the record

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recently saying there's no evidence no

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substantial evidence for the reality of

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the UAP phenomena and my impression is

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he just doesn't want to be associated

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with anything conspiratorial whatsoever

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except for JFK he he just doesn't want

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to be associated with in his mind he

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thinks that he comes off as someone

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who's not so bright because he

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subscribes that you ap are real so he he

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toes this very very strict line of

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there's no evidence and of course that's

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ridiculous and and in when he was doing

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the interview with Tom DeLonge he didn't

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even know who was on the panel on the

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October 11 press conference I mean how

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could you not even how could you that

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would take five minutes of preparation

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it's unbelievable yeah I think that

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moment when he said that that he had

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done any background research through

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DeLong a little bit he was expecting a

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guy to be well prepared to have detailed

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questions and when that obviously was

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not gonna happen he had to kind of

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rethink his strategy a little bit so for

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the kid Rose issue there I'm sorry Frank

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Brogan had a show on sci-fi channel that

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looked at your folks he interviewed Eric

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Davis well not him Duncan Trussell did

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right right he interviewed yeah so I

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just I mean I agrees Ryan that he

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doesn't want to be associated with

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conspiracy theorists and I kind of hate

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that term but he has any Bravo on and

328
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any Bravo is the king of conspiracy

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theorists funny little little story

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there was a comedian that is on the same

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tripoli podcast real quick who was

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talking about the a tip program and all

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that what took place and i reached out

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to him through a twitter just recently

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and mentioned hey you need to look at

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this short film which was Dave Brady's

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the Nimitz encounters and he got back to

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me said he he could not believe how well

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done that was but he also said that he

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would like to know other documentaries

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or other places to look to for this

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phenomena or people to listen to so I

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kind of give him a list of things and

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people to look at for this phenomenon so

345
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I just thought that was kind of cool

346
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well it was something quite interesting

347
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that was part of the Achuar the video

348
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that was prepared by Dave it was also

349
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written into the TTS a paper that wasn't

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present in natural original report if

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you read the original report about the

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incident itself it does not mention the

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weapon systems on the actual video and

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as part of the TTS a report they seem to

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add this information about the weapon

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systems as part of the the planes which

357
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is never in the original what about the

358
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where do you mean that they weren't

359
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armed at the time yes okay correct okay

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there in tradition that was added to the

361
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TTS a report which I just find

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interesting you know what I mean what

363
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that was the the

364
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consistency whether it's information

365
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they've got later I don't know but there

366
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was there's definitely that is different

367
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between the two reports Ryan you wanted

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to go ahead yeah I wanted one thing I

369
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learned through his documentary and I I

370
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didn't come across this and some of you

371
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probably have is Beatty spoke to someone

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off the record that it wasn't public

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that when the pilot saw the tic-tac

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there was like a mirage kind of

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appearance to it and and you you notice

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that in the in the documentary itself he

377
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does put like a mirage like appearance

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to the tic-tacs

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and I don't I saw him make a comment

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about that somewhere I don't know if you

381
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guys have him saying something like that

382
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I know that other people that were

383
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actually at for aesthetic tech said

384
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events have been corresponding with Dave

385
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so maybe Frank and James you need to

386
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have Dave back yeah oh yeah that's in

387
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the plans no doubt look at the review of

388
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the movie as well yeah we wanted to have

389
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during you know the day of the release

390
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but you know everybody schedules are so

391
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crazy but we just talked about the the

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video you know if we do a short but real

393
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quick I will say this Jay what he just

394
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mentioned about the art movement not

395
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being armed because there was a it was a

396
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sidewinder missile that could not come

397
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off the rail I want to say it was the

398
00:18:06,919 --> 00:18:04,590
flavor interview with Jimmy Korbel and I

399
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don't quote me if this is on YouTube or

400
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not but he maintains that the two stars

401
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account and what his his account is

402
00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:20,549
slightly is different right yeah so

403
00:18:26,270 --> 00:18:23,130
maybe there was some lost translation

404
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:26,280
stopped there I don't know yes then

405
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agree I mentioned those documents that

406
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came off the Chris Mullin website when

407
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the the Nimitz call up to the virtual

408
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the pilots there's in the original

409
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:38,190
report that was from Chris Mullins

410
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:39,690
website does not mention the weapon

411
00:18:43,130 --> 00:18:40,770
systems they have a different

412
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conversation it was only in the report

413
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that was released by T TSA on their

414
00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:46,590
website that mentions these weapon

415
00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:48,450
systems I mean it spot

416
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that the pilots mentioned it later and

417
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clarified and said oh by the way they

418
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asked about weapon systems but it wasn't

419
00:19:02,420 --> 00:18:56,850
present in that original report so maybe

420
00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:02,430
that's what he's referring to yeah the

421
00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:04,860
melon leak was kind of like some of the

422
00:19:11,270 --> 00:19:06,830
information in there was like a

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preliminary like a briefing package just

424
00:19:15,260 --> 00:19:13,260
to kind of sell the you know what their

425
00:19:16,460 --> 00:19:15,270
I don't mean in a bad way kind of pitch

426
00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:16,470
their idea and what they're doing and it

427
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:19,590
wasn't a final cut another really

428
00:19:24,380 --> 00:19:22,170
interesting thing about all this and

429
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:24,390
Dave made sure to add it to the to the

430
00:19:30,650 --> 00:19:26,640
film is the what was it those little

431
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:30,660
hooks or whatever the canard yeah that's

432
00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:33,930
insane that's just so cool yeah well

433
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,550
well double back today's movie we're

434
00:19:42,140 --> 00:19:37,440
gonna everybody here has seen it right

435
00:19:43,490 --> 00:19:42,150
oh yeah yeah yeah amazing so uh yeah

436
00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:43,500
well we'll double back and we'll talk

437
00:19:48,170 --> 00:19:45,510
about G's movie but then let's say I get

438
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:48,180
back to the conference over in Italy the

439
00:19:52,660 --> 00:19:50,010
long wrapped up his brief comments and

440
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:52,670
then Louie Elizondo took the floor and

441
00:19:58,820 --> 00:19:56,010
basically the first part of his

442
00:20:00,140 --> 00:19:58,830
presentation they're covered UFO history

443
00:20:01,820 --> 00:20:00,150
and I thought that was pretty

444
00:20:04,340 --> 00:20:01,830
interesting because one of the things he

445
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:04,350
was saying very early on linked last

446
00:20:09,020 --> 00:20:05,850
year and into the early part of this

447
00:20:12,020 --> 00:20:09,030
year was what he had his job running a

448
00:20:15,050 --> 00:20:12,030
tip he did not really get into the

449
00:20:16,700 --> 00:20:15,060
history of UFOs he just basically took

450
00:20:19,910 --> 00:20:16,710
the cases as they came and dealt with

451
00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:19,920
what was in front of him and two weeks

452
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:22,320
back he's at this conference and he goes

453
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:24,570
through essentially his version of UFO

454
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:26,820
history and this was pretty interesting

455
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:29,610
stuff and I was wondering what feedback

456
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:30,960
we've got that from the folks who

457
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:34,010
watched that presentation went through

458
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:36,330
Roswell he dropped the Roswell case

459
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:37,890
talked about that cases through the

460
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:39,930
fifties and sixties seven you know when

461
00:20:46,430 --> 00:20:42,690
I brought it right up to today feedback

462
00:20:50,930 --> 00:20:46,440
on elizondo's a little history lesson on

463
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:50,940
UFOs he of course he mentioned the

464
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Rendlesham stuff so that was like this

465
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:55,140
huge bomb show and he said he gave the

466
00:21:00,370 --> 00:20:57,360
four month window so I think it's before

467
00:21:02,340 --> 00:21:00,380
February 27th is when the four months

468
00:21:05,190 --> 00:21:02,350
expires and he said four

469
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:05,200
in four months we'll hear more

470
00:21:10,019 --> 00:21:08,320
information about it he said that it was

471
00:21:12,779 --> 00:21:10,029
it would make close encounters of the

472
00:21:15,870 --> 00:21:12,789
third time I don't know seem like

473
00:21:17,639 --> 00:21:15,880
nothing or I'm paraphrasing yeah yeah

474
00:21:19,529 --> 00:21:17,649
it's just a big deal and I think

475
00:21:21,419 --> 00:21:19,539
everyone all of us have wanted

476
00:21:22,740 --> 00:21:21,429
Eva's honor to be speaking about the

477
00:21:24,749 --> 00:21:22,750
history of stuff and to be speaking

478
00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:24,759
about other things because he's always

479
00:21:28,019 --> 00:21:26,350
stopped short with a tip so the fact

480
00:21:29,730 --> 00:21:28,029
that he did that now is really

481
00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:29,740
incredible and it's really positive for

482
00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:30,340
the community

483
00:21:33,779 --> 00:21:31,990
yeah I thought his choices of what to

484
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:33,789
include and what not to include was very

485
00:21:39,509 --> 00:21:37,090
interesting and one real specific

486
00:21:41,789 --> 00:21:39,519
mention that he came up with and one of

487
00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:41,799
his slides really kind of surprised me

488
00:21:48,389 --> 00:21:44,110
when talking about the 70s he mentioned

489
00:21:51,690 --> 00:21:48,399
the CIA weird desk man by alfred lund

490
00:21:54,090 --> 00:21:51,700
all kicked green Ron Pandolfi over a

491
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:54,100
period of years I'll tell you what I

492
00:21:56,909 --> 00:21:55,840
don't know if he was listening live but

493
00:21:58,740 --> 00:21:56,919
as soon as he heard about it

494
00:22:01,139 --> 00:21:58,750
I expect that Grant Cameron was doing

495
00:22:04,529 --> 00:22:01,149
some back flips over that he did he was

496
00:22:07,169 --> 00:22:04,539
very excited about that but the thing

497
00:22:10,950 --> 00:22:07,179
that excited me the most I know that it

498
00:22:13,169 --> 00:22:10,960
was a long conference in a along you

499
00:22:15,779 --> 00:22:13,179
know lecture but the fact that he

500
00:22:19,249 --> 00:22:15,789
mentioned Rendlesham over three nights I

501
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:19,259
was doing backflips over because most

502
00:22:26,610 --> 00:22:24,490
researchers think it's 2 or 1 or it's a

503
00:22:30,810 --> 00:22:26,620
lighthouse or what have you but that for

504
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:30,820
me was huge because that means that he

505
00:22:37,710 --> 00:22:35,200
is taking to account possibly what john

506
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:37,720
burroughs on the third night not the

507
00:22:41,879 --> 00:22:39,690
first night but the third night and

508
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,889
Adrian buss tenza and I know I'm going

509
00:22:45,509 --> 00:22:43,360
to mention the name here that's gonna

510
00:22:49,649 --> 00:22:45,519
get me scolded but I don't really care

511
00:22:51,749 --> 00:22:49,659
is Larry Warren's account so yeah that's

512
00:22:54,090 --> 00:22:51,759
huge yeah I think we're gonna go into

513
00:22:56,249 --> 00:22:54,100
some more detail on all that and we'll

514
00:22:58,980 --> 00:22:56,259
have a little show dedicated to just

515
00:23:00,749 --> 00:22:58,990
clearing up a lot of misconceptions you

516
00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:00,759
mentioned the lighthouse Chris that

517
00:23:04,889 --> 00:23:02,230
still floats around out there as a

518
00:23:06,299 --> 00:23:04,899
frisée yeah the whole thing I think we

519
00:23:06,629 --> 00:23:06,309
could knock that down pretty quick and

520
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:06,639
easy

521
00:23:11,460 --> 00:23:09,039
Larry Warren yeah is apparently going to

522
00:23:13,379 --> 00:23:11,470
be featured in a documentary about the

523
00:23:15,899 --> 00:23:13,389
case called Cape L green

524
00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:15,909
that's gonna be coming out shortly not

525
00:23:18,839 --> 00:23:17,529
so sure about that we'll have to see

526
00:23:20,719 --> 00:23:18,849
what they've got together Gary Heseltine

527
00:23:24,479 --> 00:23:20,729
is involved in that

528
00:23:25,769 --> 00:23:24,489
so that's the Rendlesham case we got

529
00:23:27,180 --> 00:23:25,779
time out we're definitely gonna double

530
00:23:28,489 --> 00:23:27,190
back and talk a little bit about that

531
00:23:31,409 --> 00:23:28,499
some of the connections to other

532
00:23:34,019 --> 00:23:31,419
paranormal hotspots around the world but

533
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:34,029
that was that a little indicate and that

534
00:23:38,399 --> 00:23:36,129
by and large it was I thought a very

535
00:23:40,889 --> 00:23:38,409
good little history lesson if someone

536
00:23:42,690 --> 00:23:40,899
was completely unfamiliar with the

537
00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:42,700
history he covered a lot of ground I

538
00:23:48,060 --> 00:23:45,329
thought he did a nice job but one area

539
00:23:50,009 --> 00:23:48,070
where he did make a little bit of a

540
00:23:52,499 --> 00:23:50,019
mistake and not surprisingly caught

541
00:23:55,229 --> 00:23:52,509
nothing but heat over it was he included

542
00:23:57,690 --> 00:23:55,239
as a graphical and discussing the DC 52

543
00:24:00,299 --> 00:23:57,700
case he included a graphic that is

544
00:24:02,249 --> 00:24:00,309
actually a frame grab from a video that

545
00:24:04,319 --> 00:24:02,259
was prepared for a television

546
00:24:05,639 --> 00:24:04,329
documentary about the case or the

547
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:05,649
covered the case anyway

548
00:24:14,509 --> 00:24:10,690
and he showed that and presented it as a

549
00:24:18,060 --> 00:24:14,519
legitimate photograph of the actual

550
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:18,070
event that is not the case that little

551
00:24:22,199 --> 00:24:19,809
video has been floating around a while

552
00:24:24,749 --> 00:24:22,209
I've actually got it right now a graphic

553
00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:24,759
I've included it as a an illustration

554
00:24:30,089 --> 00:24:27,700
only in an article that I wrote in my

555
00:24:32,579 --> 00:24:30,099
website about the juicing 52 case so I

556
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:32,589
knew the Providence of the the image I

557
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:35,200
framed grabbed it myself out of the out

558
00:24:39,329 --> 00:24:36,609
of the full video that's floating around

559
00:24:43,049 --> 00:24:39,339
sharpen it up a little bit but it's

560
00:24:46,229 --> 00:24:43,059
there over at my website I'm one big

561
00:24:48,629 --> 00:24:46,239
shame is I think that the GC 52 UFO

562
00:24:49,649 --> 00:24:48,639
cases the greatest UFO case of all time

563
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:49,659
I really do

564
00:24:54,239 --> 00:24:52,450
and people are arguing back and forth

565
00:24:56,310 --> 00:24:54,249
about the provenance of this picture

566
00:25:01,440 --> 00:24:56,320
which is an illustration it's not a real

567
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:01,450
picture I saw as a representation of

568
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:03,690
something that he had to visually show

569
00:25:08,190 --> 00:25:06,369
just like I said before if you sit there

570
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:08,200
through a lecture and you don't have

571
00:25:11,159 --> 00:25:09,129
visual aids

572
00:25:13,709 --> 00:25:11,169
people are gonna snore and fall asleep

573
00:25:17,729 --> 00:25:13,719
and they're not gonna pay attention now

574
00:25:20,849 --> 00:25:17,739
he did go back and apologize for using

575
00:25:22,859 --> 00:25:20,859
that photo that well well yeah I mean he

576
00:25:24,899 --> 00:25:22,869
he presented the photo as if it was a

577
00:25:26,259 --> 00:25:24,909
legitimate photo he said then but these

578
00:25:29,829 --> 00:25:26,269
are legitimate photos of the

579
00:25:31,979 --> 00:25:29,839
was a mistake yeah I mean if you're only

580
00:25:34,479 --> 00:25:31,989
Robert Schaefer

581
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,489
there should have been copy on that

582
00:25:37,899 --> 00:25:36,320
photo that said for representational

583
00:25:39,969 --> 00:25:37,909
purposes only and then he won't even had

584
00:25:41,469 --> 00:25:39,979
to pointed it out verbally but that that

585
00:25:42,849 --> 00:25:41,479
was a party see that what do you what do

586
00:25:45,329 --> 00:25:42,859
you what he pointed out verbally Ryan

587
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:45,339
was that this is a legitimate photo

588
00:25:51,789 --> 00:25:50,570
right was not exactly it was you know

589
00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:51,799
it's making it makes it a little bit

590
00:25:56,349 --> 00:25:54,200
hard on us when we're trying to battle

591
00:25:57,969 --> 00:25:56,359
these skeptics and naysayers and whatnot

592
00:26:02,169 --> 00:25:57,979
but it was a mistake he admitted it so

593
00:26:04,029 --> 00:26:02,179
to me but Danny yeah let's say I look at

594
00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:04,039
it this way this is a they've been

595
00:26:08,379 --> 00:26:05,929
making this kind of mistake on a regular

596
00:26:10,180 --> 00:26:08,389
basis you have to wonder if after while

597
00:26:11,919 --> 00:26:10,190
these are pretty sharp guys if they're

598
00:26:13,479 --> 00:26:11,929
not doing these things deliberately just

599
00:26:21,549 --> 00:26:13,489
to drive people like Shafer and Kurt

600
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:21,559
College nuts it shows me that or at

601
00:26:24,579 --> 00:26:22,609
least I'm sorry guys

602
00:26:28,959 --> 00:26:24,589
it tells me that they're doing it all on

603
00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:28,969
their own and that's good I external

604
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,669
force ie the US government telling them

605
00:26:36,489 --> 00:26:34,159
what they can or cannot talk about right

606
00:26:38,619 --> 00:26:36,499
so that tells me they're doing that on

607
00:26:39,969 --> 00:26:38,629
their own at least to me Oh what you

608
00:26:41,169 --> 00:26:39,979
guys like that's a great point

609
00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:41,179
I think they better not make this

610
00:26:52,719 --> 00:26:50,719
mistake again is what I think that's an

611
00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:52,729
illustration it's from an old TV

612
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:55,940
documentary but that's where that's at

613
00:27:01,839 --> 00:26:58,129
so anyone else have any takeaways from

614
00:27:05,949 --> 00:27:01,849
the presentation yes yes interesting

615
00:27:08,709 --> 00:27:05,959
that Elizondo was asked about patterns

616
00:27:10,930 --> 00:27:08,719
regarding the data where you ap go and

617
00:27:12,819 --> 00:27:10,940
so forth and he said that he he would

618
00:27:14,199 --> 00:27:12,829
not go further into it because I guess

619
00:27:17,649 --> 00:27:14,209
it was classified but all he could say

620
00:27:20,349 --> 00:27:17,659
is they congregate from his from his

621
00:27:22,659 --> 00:27:20,359
studies at the a tip they congregate

622
00:27:24,879 --> 00:27:22,669
around water and around nuclear

623
00:27:27,339 --> 00:27:24,889
facilities and I think that information

624
00:27:29,589 --> 00:27:27,349
is essential because a tips whole

625
00:27:32,019 --> 00:27:29,599
objective is to learn what what are

626
00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:32,029
these what are they and how do they work

627
00:27:35,589 --> 00:27:33,769
and and are they a national security

628
00:27:38,619 --> 00:27:35,599
threat or not so from a personal

629
00:27:40,220 --> 00:27:38,629
standpoint that I would love to to delve

630
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:40,230
further into the patterns

631
00:27:48,110 --> 00:27:44,850
where they see these UAP most often how

632
00:27:49,370 --> 00:27:48,120
long they spend at various locations but

633
00:27:50,539 --> 00:27:49,380
but a bit apparently that's very

634
00:27:53,060 --> 00:27:50,549
classified but I think that would be

635
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:53,070
very useful for for us who are studying

636
00:28:05,560 --> 00:27:57,330
the phenomenon yeah no I data always

637
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:05,570
matters absolutely jump in yeah let me

638
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:08,130
getting back to when Alessandro is going

639
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:09,330
over the history he mentioned spent

640
00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:11,970
waters and you know during that he he

641
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:14,580
mentioned that he he briefed four people

642
00:28:19,370 --> 00:28:17,730
from the Bentwaters case you know so you

643
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,380
know how does some you know something

644
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:22,320
like Elizondo three people on an event

645
00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:26,010
that they were part of later

646
00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:29,790
yet he debriefed them so but the

647
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:32,370
interesting part about that is you know

648
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:34,110
we know and we know also I'm sorry about

649
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:35,850
this James but that we also know that

650
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:38,850
John burrows was one of them yeah yeah

651
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:41,100
john boss made a post saying listen guys

652
00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:43,770
cats out of the bag yeah i've been i've

653
00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:44,940
been speaking to Elizondo

654
00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:49,280
you know yeah so that's one thing but

655
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:51,870
you know you also have to wonder because

656
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:53,340
you know everybody knows that the

657
00:28:57,049 --> 00:28:55,530
Rendlesham documents you know they

658
00:28:58,909 --> 00:28:57,059
weren't missing they were supposed to be

659
00:29:01,549 --> 00:28:58,919
be classified and put out with one of

660
00:29:03,650 --> 00:29:01,559
those UK releases and and they

661
00:29:06,169 --> 00:29:03,660
disappeared so you get a wonder with

662
00:29:07,730 --> 00:29:06,179
with elizondo's clearance level since

663
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:07,740
she has such a high clearance if he had

664
00:29:13,870 --> 00:29:09,890
might have gotten access to some of them

665
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:13,880
or if he was if he is part of this a tip

666
00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:16,530
database and there was an oldest

667
00:29:22,010 --> 00:29:18,240
database before that had been doing what

668
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:22,020
a tip was doing you know back when until

669
00:29:26,390 --> 00:29:23,850
present day even if it wasn't as such an

670
00:29:28,820 --> 00:29:26,400
official capacity if he might have been

671
00:29:30,980 --> 00:29:28,830
able to get something on that case that

672
00:29:33,260 --> 00:29:30,990
you know nobody has really had access to

673
00:29:34,430 --> 00:29:33,270
since yeah there's always one

674
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:34,440
interesting thing because you have to

675
00:29:42,140 --> 00:29:37,230
consider you know a tip if it started in

676
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,150
2007 or 2008 how does he have how do

677
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:43,919
they have all that information from the

678
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:46,130
nimitz when the Nimbus was in 2004 so

679
00:29:51,250 --> 00:29:48,809
they have access to some kind of

680
00:29:53,490 --> 00:29:51,260
database that's prior to a tip in us at

681
00:29:56,580 --> 00:29:53,500
all it must

682
00:29:58,890 --> 00:29:56,590
little the database that valet had been

683
00:30:01,440 --> 00:29:58,900
mentioning must contain all of that data

684
00:30:03,540 --> 00:30:01,450
so it would contain it yeah from mid to

685
00:30:06,450 --> 00:30:03,550
bath and then through the 8th it we know

686
00:30:08,490 --> 00:30:06,460
bass probably ended in 2010 so I'll

687
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:08,500
assume you know they must have cancelled

688
00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:10,750
it out because of a tip something like

689
00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:13,000
that because they're gonna be continuing

690
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:14,260
the research you know within the

691
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:15,760
government I would hazard a guess and

692
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:17,410
that database must still be present

693
00:30:22,410 --> 00:30:19,450
somewhere have all of that data still

694
00:30:25,290 --> 00:30:22,420
available yeah Knapp has said several

695
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:25,300
times and Elizondo Elizondo said the

696
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:28,650
program still going on Jimmy Korbel

697
00:30:33,060 --> 00:30:30,970
Jeremy Korbel and that they all have

698
00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:33,070
said that you know you know several

699
00:30:37,650 --> 00:30:34,870
times so you know there's still some

700
00:30:39,330 --> 00:30:37,660
database collection going on whether

701
00:30:41,580 --> 00:30:39,340
it's an official capacity or it's just

702
00:30:45,630 --> 00:30:41,590
people doing it within their own you

703
00:30:49,950 --> 00:30:45,640
know roles as an extra I'm not sure but

704
00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:49,960
it seems that Elizondo had access to two

705
00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:52,440
events from the past if he was able to

706
00:30:57,630 --> 00:30:55,380
again if they were able to study the

707
00:30:59,520 --> 00:30:57,640
nimitz encounter and get all that data

708
00:31:03,000 --> 00:30:59,530
where do they get it from if it was from

709
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:03,010
2004 i think yeah i think that nap had

710
00:31:07,530 --> 00:31:05,470
said that it turned up there was a file

711
00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:07,540
on it in some generals desk somewhere

712
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:08,860
that it was just kind of laying around

713
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:10,630
it really wasn't going anywhere

714
00:31:15,780 --> 00:31:12,970
yeah by allah's honor was able to turn

715
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:15,790
it out but we get we have any other

716
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:17,500
thoughts on Elizondo before we move on

717
00:31:21,660 --> 00:31:20,410
to our next topic it's one more and

718
00:31:25,470 --> 00:31:21,670
that's another thing if the program

719
00:31:38,220 --> 00:31:25,480
stopped in 2012 have to have the gimbal

720
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:38,230
and go-fast footage that's from right we

721
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:39,010
know that already

722
00:31:44,670 --> 00:31:40,510
maybe just change the name of the time

723
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:44,680
it is to start these programs tend to

724
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:46,750
change their names because they don't

725
00:31:52,410 --> 00:31:49,600
they want to stay two or three steps

726
00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:52,420
ahead of people like all being seriously

727
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:55,030
yeah yeah I'm not joking yeah you're

728
00:31:59,850 --> 00:31:55,600
right about that

729
00:32:03,600 --> 00:31:59,860
there's no brand to get or give any

730
00:32:06,810 --> 00:32:03,610
information out if they don't have to so

731
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:06,820
yeah till they want to well it's gonna

732
00:32:09,299 --> 00:32:07,360
be like

733
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:09,309
trying the from the adult dead coal

734
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:11,190
paint or cold dead hands I can't talk

735
00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:14,170
you know yeah I don't know I think it

736
00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:15,880
must be coming out though I think it

737
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:18,220
must be some sort of decision within the

738
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,170
US government to start bringing this

739
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:22,960
information out so they may in the case

740
00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:24,640
for a long long time now you look at all

741
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:26,590
these old films pieces of literature and

742
00:32:29,549 --> 00:32:27,970
stuff like that you know some of this

743
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:29,559
informations been around for years and

744
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:31,510
years and years I've been recently

745
00:32:38,669 --> 00:32:34,330
reading a bit about John keel he did the

746
00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:38,679
book called the haunted planet horn

747
00:32:44,460 --> 00:32:41,169
planets he talked about ultra

748
00:32:47,159 --> 00:32:44,470
terrestrials para humans you know kind

749
00:32:49,530 --> 00:32:47,169
of like some sort of civilization that

750
00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:49,540
was present here before us this kind of

751
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:51,520
stuff into this informations been around

752
00:32:55,770 --> 00:32:52,750
for years and I think that book was

753
00:32:57,270 --> 00:32:55,780
dated 1970 you know what I mean who

754
00:32:58,740 --> 00:32:57,280
knows where this information originally

755
00:33:00,720 --> 00:32:58,750
came from but it seems like it's been a

756
00:33:02,789 --> 00:33:00,730
slow release and it's just it's just

757
00:33:06,690 --> 00:33:02,799
like a waterfall at the moment it's just

758
00:33:09,270 --> 00:33:06,700
all gonna come out I think the topic of

759
00:33:11,850 --> 00:33:09,280
has tea tsa and all this stuff been

760
00:33:13,230 --> 00:33:11,860
co-signed by higher groups or probably

761
00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:13,240
people in the government is really

762
00:33:17,370 --> 00:33:15,270
really fascinating I think it's probably

763
00:33:20,370 --> 00:33:17,380
everything is true at the same time

764
00:33:23,159 --> 00:33:20,380
where it has been co-signed and and II

765
00:33:24,539 --> 00:33:23,169
was onto mentioned this when George

766
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:24,549
Knapp asked him about it on coast to

767
00:33:28,980 --> 00:33:27,490
coast that he thinks maybe it had been

768
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:28,990
and then of course there's also you know

769
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:30,910
people that are upset about everything

770
00:33:35,070 --> 00:33:32,130
and they're trying to block everything

771
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:35,080
because also Natha said that he isn't so

772
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:37,690
sure that there's a there's a disclosure

773
00:33:41,730 --> 00:33:40,570
effort going on so maybe everything is

774
00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:41,740
true at the same time and it's just

775
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:45,790
different factions I mean you had the

776
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:49,360
people within a tip done because of

777
00:33:58,730 --> 00:33:52,809
religious connotations or conflicts in

778
00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:00,659
to kill again

779
00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:02,590
reading through his books he talks about

780
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:04,230
ultra terrestrials and he talks about

781
00:34:09,270 --> 00:34:06,850
good and bad and he refers to them as

782
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:09,280
alpha being the good one and Omega being

783
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:11,919
the bad one and he also refers that

784
00:34:16,109 --> 00:34:14,290
alpha one being called the Elohim so

785
00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:16,119
there's all this incredible stuff that

786
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:18,520
he's written about years and years and

787
00:34:22,860 --> 00:34:21,250
years ago which people are talking about

788
00:34:26,730 --> 00:34:22,870
day again you know just sort of picking

789
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:26,740
up on this information in a elizondo's

790
00:34:32,129 --> 00:34:28,510
resignation late letter he seemed to

791
00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:32,139
indicate that Secretary of Defense James

792
00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:36,760
Madison slated from a tip and George

793
00:34:41,399 --> 00:34:39,220
Knapp made the same sentiment in a

794
00:34:45,030 --> 00:34:41,409
recent interview on the phenomenon radio

795
00:34:47,220 --> 00:34:45,040
program and to me this really gives you

796
00:34:48,899 --> 00:34:47,230
a glimpse of how much whoever is in

797
00:34:50,129 --> 00:34:48,909
control of this in the Pentagon how much

798
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:50,139
they wanted a secret I mean if they're

799
00:34:54,419 --> 00:34:52,210
insulating it from the actual Secretary

800
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:54,429
of Defense you can only imagine how much

801
00:34:58,890 --> 00:34:56,409
for a very long period of time they did

802
00:35:00,750 --> 00:34:58,900
not want just normal everyday Americans

803
00:35:02,310 --> 00:35:00,760
to know and this kind of lends

804
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:02,320
credibility to what Chris was saying how

805
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:03,850
they keep changed they changed the name

806
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:06,610
so that to make it difficult for anyone

807
00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:08,650
access the data through Freedom of

808
00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:11,350
Information Act or otherwise and I don't

809
00:35:15,570 --> 00:35:13,060
know whether it's true or not that

810
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:15,580
mattis was insulated from it but if we

811
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:17,710
were to take out what Elizondo indicated

812
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:20,710
and as well as his resignation letter

813
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:23,170
then yeah apparently James Madison's the

814
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:25,090
height the number one guy in the

815
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:26,890
Department of Defense did not know about

816
00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:28,870
a tip and for all we know didn't even

817
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:32,280
know about the the phenomenon of craft

818
00:35:39,470 --> 00:35:37,270
infiltrating highly secret and airspace

819
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:39,480
that they're not allowed to obviously

820
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,530
engage and I to me it's just it's

821
00:35:45,890 --> 00:35:42,720
mind-blowing

822
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:45,900
what's really cool is that story that I

823
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:50,850
think Knapp told about how supposedly

824
00:35:55,970 --> 00:35:54,130
mattis was pulled aside at some event

825
00:35:59,190 --> 00:35:55,980
the day before

826
00:36:00,540 --> 00:35:59,200
Elizondo or I guess maybe before T TSA

827
00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:00,550
was gonna come forward I guess it would

828
00:36:03,690 --> 00:36:02,260
have been he was on dough and he was

829
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:03,700
basically briefed right then and there

830
00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:05,230
and said hey this is happening tomorrow

831
00:36:11,370 --> 00:36:08,740
by the way yeah they said it Knapp said

832
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:11,380
that on during a social event somebody

833
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:13,330
pulled mattis aside and said hey you

834
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:14,770
know this is coming out tomorrow in the

835
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:17,710
New York Times and that's when the story

836
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:22,320
broke back to December 16 2013

837
00:36:29,250 --> 00:36:24,610
it's been a good year it's been a good

838
00:36:31,830 --> 00:36:29,260
year since yeah and and so you know from

839
00:36:33,270 --> 00:36:31,840
what we're looking at you know I don't

840
00:36:35,110 --> 00:36:33,280
want to go with like the dangling carrot

841
00:36:39,850 --> 00:36:35,120
but it looks like we're gonna be

842
00:36:41,350 --> 00:36:39,860
a lot in 2019 you know we have the all

843
00:36:44,350 --> 00:36:41,360
these you know there's a few Rendell's

844
00:36:45,610 --> 00:36:44,360
from shows you know some of them or you

845
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:45,620
know one of them obviously is not

846
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:47,570
connected in any way that to the

847
00:36:53,020 --> 00:36:49,910
starters it's just a you know get

848
00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:53,030
docudrama kind of series aluminum but

849
00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:56,720
the you know John John Burroughs had

850
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:01,270
posted pictures from The History Channel

851
00:37:05,380 --> 00:37:04,160
with you know Elizondo and the pictures

852
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:05,390
mm-hmm

853
00:37:10,420 --> 00:37:08,630
he was kind of insinuating that this

854
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:10,430
History Channel

855
00:37:20,770 --> 00:37:13,660
interview with Elizondo was related to

856
00:37:23,860 --> 00:37:20,780
the Rendlesham event yes I believe one

857
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:23,870
of the people interviewed from Elizondo

858
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:27,710
was the person in Ohio that piece it

859
00:37:36,010 --> 00:37:29,570
fell from the sky or what have you

860
00:37:37,870 --> 00:37:36,020
yeah yeah yep and yeah oh and you know

861
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:37,880
obviously during that event we saw they

862
00:37:44,290 --> 00:37:39,710
have a ton of pieces they have a ton of

863
00:37:48,130 --> 00:37:44,300
samples you know I know look like a good

864
00:37:50,710 --> 00:37:48,140
dozen yeah yeah and Keith pastor field

865
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:50,720
has put together in a collection of he

866
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:53,090
did a few pieces on on the material

867
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:55,370
aspects I think he did one just on the

868
00:38:00,100 --> 00:37:57,650
TTS a presentation and then now he's

869
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:00,110
created a whole larger like public

870
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:03,290
database of all the samples of interest

871
00:38:07,450 --> 00:38:05,570
that that are you know being looked at

872
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:07,460
which is a fantastic thing yeah put the

873
00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:09,710
link in the description because it's a

874
00:38:17,830 --> 00:38:12,400
phenomenal you know report of these

875
00:38:20,350 --> 00:38:17,840
materials but the the so you know we

876
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,360
have that that show coming out on the

877
00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:21,760
History Channel

878
00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:26,420
you know there's and Tom DeLonge

879
00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:29,030
mentioned that he sold three ufo-related

880
00:38:35,410 --> 00:38:33,320
chose to to major network television and

881
00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:35,420
obviously we're getting the they've been

882
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:38,390
talking about there's going to be an

883
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:41,570
initial materialist analysis report

884
00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:44,390
coming in January or February right

885
00:38:48,730 --> 00:38:46,550
didn't AB say something like that he

886
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:48,740
said I don't know if he said an analysis

887
00:38:51,249 --> 00:38:49,130
or in a

888
00:38:52,839 --> 00:38:51,259
announcement I'm kind of confused about

889
00:38:55,749 --> 00:38:52,849
what exactly is coming but yeah

890
00:38:57,690 --> 00:38:55,759
something from Adam project is coming he

891
00:38:59,829 --> 00:38:57,700
said quote after the first of the year

892
00:39:02,980 --> 00:38:59,839
yeah I think we're gonna get like an

893
00:39:05,950 --> 00:39:02,990
initial report yeah yeah that's my

894
00:39:07,630 --> 00:39:05,960
that's my speculation and also you know

895
00:39:10,749 --> 00:39:07,640
it just so happens around that same time

896
00:39:12,730 --> 00:39:10,759
we're supposed to be getting more videos

897
00:39:16,809 --> 00:39:12,740
either flee or videos or gun camera

898
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:16,819
footage videos in these cases I believe

899
00:39:22,839 --> 00:39:19,490
though those videos will not be released

900
00:39:25,299 --> 00:39:22,849
the same vein and I know like proof or

901
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:25,309
anything but if I were them I would put

902
00:39:29,499 --> 00:39:27,920
that in the show that's gonna be coming

903
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:29,509
up it's funny how the History Channel's

904
00:39:37,029 --> 00:39:32,690
got Project Blue Book this unnamed to

905
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:37,039
Stars UFO UAP show coming out with Lou

906
00:39:44,980 --> 00:39:41,210
Elizondo Tom DeLonge Kevin de Carrie

907
00:39:48,579 --> 00:39:44,990
from a tip the group so that's gonna be

908
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:48,589
interesting but I would think they put

909
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:50,410
the videos in there I don't know maybe

910
00:39:54,759 --> 00:39:52,730
yeah I've heard I've heard something

911
00:39:56,559 --> 00:39:54,769
along those lines too but at the same

912
00:40:00,220 --> 00:39:56,569
time if you're if you're gonna have like

913
00:40:04,089 --> 00:40:00,230
an official release of the DoD going

914
00:40:05,769 --> 00:40:04,099
cameras or FLIR footage I think you know

915
00:40:08,470 --> 00:40:05,779
my own opinion is better than just like

916
00:40:09,970 --> 00:40:08,480
Premera and some cool TV show would be

917
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:09,980
to put it out through an official you

918
00:40:14,650 --> 00:40:12,890
know news channel like you know I think

919
00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:14,660
that'd be more impactful really to be

920
00:40:18,819 --> 00:40:16,460
the headline of the papers rather than a

921
00:40:20,529 --> 00:40:18,829
TV show yeah it'd be more believable

922
00:40:22,269 --> 00:40:20,539
because if you're putting in a TV show

923
00:40:23,529 --> 00:40:22,279
people gonna be like all this is in a TV

924
00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:23,539
show but if it's a like an official

925
00:40:27,730 --> 00:40:25,190
release and the media is covering it

926
00:40:29,499 --> 00:40:27,740
then your people who are not into UFOs

927
00:40:31,299 --> 00:40:29,509
will perceive it as more credible so

928
00:40:32,559 --> 00:40:31,309
yeah I would I would think that'd be a

929
00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:32,569
better way to do it

930
00:40:39,099 --> 00:40:36,470
two boys this is from the US government

931
00:40:41,499 --> 00:40:39,109
it's all predicated and what they want

932
00:40:43,329 --> 00:40:41,509
if they want in the TV show so it's

933
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:43,339
watered down a little bit it's gonna be

934
00:40:51,579 --> 00:40:49,250
in a TV show I'm just thinking yeah that

935
00:40:53,410 --> 00:40:51,589
kind of goes around with you know what

936
00:40:55,329 --> 00:40:53,420
grant Cameron are saying like you put it

937
00:40:58,029 --> 00:40:55,339
out there and you pull it back and you

938
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:58,039
can yes yeah

939
00:41:01,750 --> 00:40:59,359
are we still there though you know what

940
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:01,760
I mean we're getting we're getting

941
00:41:05,590 --> 00:41:04,010
so much closer to the the the Promised

942
00:41:06,790 --> 00:41:05,600
Land it's like at some point you don't

943
00:41:08,770 --> 00:41:06,800
pull back anymore it's like you've

944
00:41:10,030 --> 00:41:08,780
you've already gone too far and it's

945
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:10,040
just like you're releasing stuff like

946
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:11,210
there's no pulling back like we had

947
00:41:16,660 --> 00:41:13,130
December 16th we had the three gun

948
00:41:18,940 --> 00:41:16,670
camera videos it's just you know we had

949
00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:18,950
flavor going every news station you can

950
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:20,660
imagine like to me we're at a point

951
00:41:24,670 --> 00:41:22,370
where there's no pulling back like

952
00:41:28,210 --> 00:41:24,680
you're just we're too far deep in and

953
00:41:30,730 --> 00:41:28,220
now whoever is in the Pentagon who is in

954
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:30,740
favor for greater transparency and has

955
00:41:35,410 --> 00:41:33,170
the leverage has pressed that button and

956
00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:35,420
from from my perspective it's it's about

957
00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:36,230
it's go time

958
00:41:41,770 --> 00:41:39,980
and the beginning of tonight 2019 is is

959
00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:41,780
it and that's when the skeptics are all

960
00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:48,100
going to be depressed but history is

961
00:41:54,190 --> 00:41:51,470
unfortunately showing us that two steps

962
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,200
ahead and one step back always but so

963
00:41:59,230 --> 00:41:56,720
you know I'm not trying to be like throw

964
00:42:01,990 --> 00:41:59,240
a wet blanket on that but we'll just

965
00:42:04,570 --> 00:42:02,000
have to wait and see what comes forward

966
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:04,580
I mean if anything we know stuff is

967
00:42:07,930 --> 00:42:05,810
coming forward that's a good thing I

968
00:42:10,330 --> 00:42:07,940
mean if this was 1980s we wouldn't know

969
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:10,340
anything right we ceased on the dark but

970
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,040
this is cool that we all have this

971
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:15,440
ability to talk to each other via

972
00:42:20,860 --> 00:42:18,650
Facebook Twitter YouTube even Instagram

973
00:42:22,780 --> 00:42:20,870
that's pretty awesome that we're able to

974
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:22,790
come together and get this ball rolling

975
00:42:28,090 --> 00:42:25,760
I do think we all play a part in this

976
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:28,100
snowball and when Ellie I know was

977
00:42:32,020 --> 00:42:30,410
explicit about the videos he said not

978
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:32,030
only are more videos gonna be released

979
00:42:34,930 --> 00:42:33,530
but they're gonna be they're just as

980
00:42:36,580 --> 00:42:34,940
good as the ones previous release

981
00:42:41,530 --> 00:42:36,590
previously released and they're more

982
00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:41,540
spectacular one thing that occurred to

983
00:42:45,820 --> 00:42:43,670
me about a Rendlesham and I'm not sure

984
00:42:47,890 --> 00:42:45,830
I'm cuz I'm just speculating here when

985
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:47,900
when he was under said in four months I

986
00:42:51,610 --> 00:42:49,670
was kind of thinking hey it's gonna be

987
00:42:54,250 --> 00:42:51,620
government documents or it's gonna be

988
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:54,260
meta material analysis or it's gonna be

989
00:42:58,600 --> 00:42:57,290
some crazy stuff like in a big press

990
00:43:00,820 --> 00:42:58,610
release but like you guys were saying

991
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:00,830
maybe it will just be part of one of

992
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:01,970
these entertainment shows or

993
00:43:08,110 --> 00:43:04,250
documentaries but I hope it's a lot more

994
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:08,120
than that at this point I mean again I

995
00:43:14,710 --> 00:43:11,210
to have that video footage premiere in a

996
00:43:15,610 --> 00:43:14,720
TV show I don't see that they would see

997
00:43:17,830 --> 00:43:15,620
that as a

998
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:17,840
- what they're doing you know I think

999
00:43:21,310 --> 00:43:19,370
they understand that they need the head

1000
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:21,320
again with the mainstream media I think

1001
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:22,310
that's part of their conditioning

1002
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:25,130
process that they're you know you know

1003
00:43:31,180 --> 00:43:27,440
you know obviously if Jim Sammy van was

1004
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:31,190
partially responsible for you know the

1005
00:43:35,470 --> 00:43:32,810
New York Times article oh and the

1006
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:35,480
Washington Post and Politico all posting

1007
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:39,440
the same you know story same day which

1008
00:43:44,290 --> 00:43:41,690
which which took months of planning and

1009
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:44,300
betting and writing an investigation by

1010
00:43:48,310 --> 00:43:46,610
the news sources you know how do you get

1011
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,320
how do you get the Washington Post in

1012
00:43:52,210 --> 00:43:50,720
the New York Times to say hey I'm not

1013
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:52,220
gonna get the story out a day before you

1014
00:43:57,220 --> 00:43:55,310
to beat you on it so I mean you know for

1015
00:43:59,350 --> 00:43:57,230
them released a story on the same day

1016
00:44:00,580 --> 00:43:59,360
that's very coordinated I don't think

1017
00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:00,590
they're gonna come out with another set

1018
00:44:09,940 --> 00:44:02,990
of videos like let's do it through

1019
00:44:14,850 --> 00:44:09,950
history channel this time releasing the

1020
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:17,830
we'll go through all the details on

1021
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:19,910
these videos in the show but here's the

1022
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,090
video I think I think I think that'd be

1023
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:25,760
great that'd be you know you know and

1024
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:27,050
some people would be like oh they're

1025
00:44:32,050 --> 00:44:29,510
just putting out these videos to pitch a

1026
00:44:35,380 --> 00:44:32,060
TV show but it's like wait hold on who's

1027
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:35,390
who's who's putting this now to to pitch

1028
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:37,190
a TV show if it's being to classify to

1029
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:39,710
the government I think you know well we

1030
00:44:43,330 --> 00:44:41,450
still have people who are crying that

1031
00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:43,340
it's not truly been declassified they

1032
00:44:47,050 --> 00:44:45,020
still want their chain of custody

1033
00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:47,060
they can't just they want their cake in

1034
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:49,160
their icing all at the same time and

1035
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:51,050
that's not the way this works it's never

1036
00:44:56,980 --> 00:44:54,470
going to be the way it works yeah I mean

1037
00:44:59,710 --> 00:44:56,990
I think eventually we might hit a point

1038
00:45:01,630 --> 00:44:59,720
where there is some kind of transparency

1039
00:45:03,130 --> 00:45:01,640
there but you know that's I think that's

1040
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:03,140
after this kind of stuff is said and

1041
00:45:08,290 --> 00:45:04,400
done that we're gonna see something like

1042
00:45:11,020 --> 00:45:08,300
that there could be so far me for me

1043
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:11,030
thinking legalities they fly the buckets

1044
00:45:15,940 --> 00:45:13,370
for so long they just don't want any

1045
00:45:17,650 --> 00:45:15,950
blowback they really don't like grinds

1046
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,660
in this video they don't want any

1047
00:45:20,620 --> 00:45:19,520
blowback coming towards them they want

1048
00:45:22,990 --> 00:45:20,630
to minimize it because there will be

1049
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:23,000
blowback and oh for sure there's gonna

1050
00:45:29,290 --> 00:45:27,920
be lawsuits are you kidding me yeah I'm

1051
00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:29,300
still angry about s4

1052
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:30,560
so don't don't even get me started on

1053
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:38,960
that it's it's it's it's I do but I do

1054
00:45:43,720 --> 00:45:40,130
believe it's a crime against humanity

1055
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:43,730
and I'm not in that camp that thinks oh

1056
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:45,290
they had to judge I'm not in that camp

1057
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:47,330
nope maybe during the Cold War but the

1058
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:48,860
cold war's been over for a very long

1059
00:45:56,650 --> 00:45:53,170
time and I was watching corbels recent

1060
00:45:58,240 --> 00:45:56,660
Youtube upload about Lazar and Lazar

1061
00:46:00,400 --> 00:45:58,250
said that the only reason he could think

1062
00:46:03,610 --> 00:46:00,410
of as to why there's secrecy behind it

1063
00:46:05,290 --> 00:46:03,620
is because if if that did you give that

1064
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:05,300
to the world you know you tell them we

1065
00:46:11,710 --> 00:46:09,050
have alien aircraft with very exotic

1066
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:11,720
technology can create ridiculous amounts

1067
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:13,970
of energy if you start opening that

1068
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:15,050
Pandora's box

1069
00:46:20,740 --> 00:46:17,510
and you start putting that into the

1070
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:20,750
scientific community the problem is now

1071
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:24,470
you created a a level-two of nuclear

1072
00:46:30,340 --> 00:46:27,130
capabilities that's way more dangerous

1073
00:46:32,350 --> 00:46:30,350
could destroy the world much more easily

1074
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:32,360
you could weaponize it in a million

1075
00:46:36,580 --> 00:46:35,210
different ways and so Lazar was

1076
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:36,590
basically saying the reason he the only

1077
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:39,650
thing he can think of is they've put it

1078
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:42,440
into such deep levels of secrecy so that

1079
00:46:45,130 --> 00:46:43,730
the world does not have to contend with

1080
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:45,140
this level of technology because the

1081
00:46:48,310 --> 00:46:46,310
world will be better it will be worse

1082
00:46:51,340 --> 00:46:48,320
off if you if you bring this out to the

1083
00:46:53,260 --> 00:46:51,350
open eye I don't necessarily agree with

1084
00:46:54,820 --> 00:46:53,270
that I think you can you can you can you

1085
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:54,830
can keep it all secret but you can also

1086
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:56,770
reveal to the world that yes we had

1087
00:47:00,580 --> 00:46:59,210
craft from another star system and

1088
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:00,590
that's in my opinion that's what should

1089
00:47:05,170 --> 00:47:03,200
be undertaken there was also the de long

1090
00:47:08,140 --> 00:47:05,180
hot take and I think it was a Jimmy

1091
00:47:10,810 --> 00:47:08,150
Church interview where he said what was

1092
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:10,820
it that they they don't want the others

1093
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:19,130
to know what we have accomplished use

1094
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:20,930
nanobots right you get in to ask if

1095
00:47:24,490 --> 00:47:22,850
those aliens man they they got little

1096
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:24,500
nanobots will fly right into that skiff

1097
00:47:29,950 --> 00:47:26,570
unless you're gonna say I mean there's

1098
00:47:32,230 --> 00:47:29,960
no way they could infiltrate knowing

1099
00:47:35,050 --> 00:47:32,240
what the CIA and the Pentagon is doing I

1100
00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:35,060
mean when you just when you hear Lazar

1101
00:47:40,660 --> 00:47:38,350
talk about how that technology that that

1102
00:47:42,670 --> 00:47:40,670
propulsion system is just ridiculous and

1103
00:47:43,150 --> 00:47:42,680
they no one understands how it works

1104
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:43,160
we'll just

1105
00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:44,960
extrapolate that that level of

1106
00:47:48,910 --> 00:47:46,580
Technology and put it into two other

1107
00:47:50,350 --> 00:47:48,920
areas of easy eavesdropping whatever you

1108
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:50,360
can't hide anything from the others in

1109
00:47:58,780 --> 00:47:56,810
my opinion that's you know I did a video

1110
00:48:01,780 --> 00:47:58,790
like a few years ago talking about

1111
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:01,790
establishment disclosure and you know

1112
00:48:04,810 --> 00:48:03,530
they're gonna put their spin on it and I

1113
00:48:06,910 --> 00:48:04,820
think that's kind of part of their spin

1114
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:06,920
and that you know maybe Tom DeLonge just

1115
00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:09,920
you know part of his his jobs or

1116
00:48:13,870 --> 00:48:11,270
whatever you know being given this

1117
00:48:15,970 --> 00:48:13,880
access it took you know kind of pitch

1118
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:15,980
that kind of spin where they're gonna

1119
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:21,530
minimize any kind of damage or said save

1120
00:48:26,050 --> 00:48:23,690
face because you know if they are gonna

1121
00:48:28,180 --> 00:48:26,060
bring this out why why would they do in

1122
00:48:29,530 --> 00:48:28,190
a way that would be harmful to them the

1123
00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:29,540
establishment itself it wouldn't make

1124
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:30,920
sense I would I mean that wouldn't be

1125
00:48:36,850 --> 00:48:31,130
good

1126
00:48:39,610 --> 00:48:36,860
really that kind of stabilization we

1127
00:48:40,810 --> 00:48:39,620
need stabilization more than ever so if

1128
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:40,820
that's kind of part of what they're

1129
00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:42,770
going with I understand why they're

1130
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:45,230
saying that and even if you just put the

1131
00:48:48,550 --> 00:48:47,270
idea out there and it's not true there's

1132
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:48,560
gonna be people that are gonna subscribe

1133
00:48:58,330 --> 00:48:50,240
to a no matter when they justifies the

1134
00:48:59,980 --> 00:48:58,340
secrecy just saying maybe it is our

1135
00:49:01,150 --> 00:48:59,990
battlefield advantages and it's stuff we

1136
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:01,160
don't know about and we're not privy to

1137
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:18,410
I don't know okay anyway wanted to or

1138
00:49:20,530 --> 00:49:18,770
not

1139
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:20,540
this information is coming out you know

1140
00:49:31,450 --> 00:49:28,610
me yeah I'm gonna say and any agents or

1141
00:49:34,030 --> 00:49:31,460
anything or listening guess what it's

1142
00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:34,040
gonna come out because Twitter Jay will

1143
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:42,710
leak you I think that T TSA is done as

1144
00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:44,810
they awaken to sleeping giant they

1145
00:49:51,070 --> 00:49:47,840
awaken the UFO community oh yeah yeah

1146
00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:51,080
they awaken the Congress yep so okay

1147
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:53,240
yeah let's say let's move on now and now

1148
00:49:57,380 --> 00:49:54,510
let's move over

1149
00:50:01,340 --> 00:49:57,390
hang on a sec let me get the slide up

1150
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:01,350
here hang on a sec this past week there

1151
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:05,010
was a case over Ireland a UFO case got a

1152
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:08,010
lot of coverage Ryan I know you did a

1153
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,440
video about it early in the week Danny

1154
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:12,720
you played a little role in making this

1155
00:50:16,460 --> 00:50:14,610
whole thing happen in the first place so

1156
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,470
we'll talk about all this but what

1157
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:18,800
basically happened was there was a

1158
00:50:25,070 --> 00:50:21,690
sighting of an object flying over

1159
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:25,080
Ireland cited by at least three

1160
00:50:31,340 --> 00:50:29,040
different pilots maybe more basically

1161
00:50:33,350 --> 00:50:31,350
yeah all these up flights were engaged

1162
00:50:35,270 --> 00:50:33,360
and I've got a graphic up now I don't

1163
00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:35,280
know if I you boys can see it there from

1164
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:37,740
where you're at but I've sent it along

1165
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:41,730
to you it's basically from flightradar24

1166
00:50:45,740 --> 00:50:44,130
dot-com it's basically yeah that gives

1167
00:50:47,930 --> 00:50:45,750
you a roughly yeah the location and

1168
00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:47,940
direction of where these planes are

1169
00:50:49,930 --> 00:50:49,380
flying at roughly the time of the

1170
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:49,940
incident

1171
00:50:54,350 --> 00:50:52,530
basically what you've got on this

1172
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:54,360
graphic I've got two flights circle

1173
00:50:58,430 --> 00:50:56,610
because we know definitively that the

1174
00:51:00,920 --> 00:50:58,440
lady who first called at everybody's

1175
00:51:03,590 --> 00:51:00,930
attention and who saw the object there

1176
00:51:06,140 --> 00:51:03,600
was the British Airways flight that is

1177
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:06,150
circled and that's a flying over land in

1178
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:09,510
Ireland and also off the coast of

1179
00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:13,110
Ireland a yes Virgin Air flight coming

1180
00:51:19,250 --> 00:51:16,470
in from the Barbados also gets a real

1181
00:51:20,930 --> 00:51:19,260
good look at the object another pilot

1182
00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:20,940
that we're not sure which plane he was

1183
00:51:25,340 --> 00:51:22,260
in because he doesn't specifically

1184
00:51:28,580 --> 00:51:25,350
identify himself but he also sees the

1185
00:51:30,110 --> 00:51:28,590
object and this garnered a lot of

1186
00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:30,120
attention we'll talk about the media

1187
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:33,030
implications right now on the audio end

1188
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:35,250
here what I want to do is go radio

1189
00:51:41,180 --> 00:51:39,120
silent and play the actual tape it's

1190
00:51:44,450 --> 00:51:41,190
about two and a half minutes worth of

1191
00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:44,460
the essential conversation and if you

1192
00:51:47,420 --> 00:51:46,260
guys can listen in on your end great you

1193
00:51:50,540 --> 00:51:47,430
might have heard it already so you

1194
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:50,550
remember it but our fans at home should

1195
00:52:06,950 --> 00:52:04,700
clerk is a six refundable free seventh

1196
00:52:09,350 --> 00:52:06,960
row and it is solut against a fiction

1197
00:52:19,220 --> 00:52:09,360
and hello radar contact it needs to be

1198
00:52:34,970 --> 00:52:19,230
smooth ahead of you as well three four

1199
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:34,980
dozen okay there's nothing showing on

1200
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:37,890
either primary or secondary okay it was

1201
00:52:53,450 --> 00:52:39,690
really so far suspect you can they love

1202
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:53,460
the theater yeah I know zero 505 so

1203
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:55,290
bright light the veneks interest here at

1204
00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:57,210
a very high speed and finish wondering

1205
00:53:01,050 --> 00:52:59,340
he didn't think it was likely from this

1206
00:53:04,660 --> 00:53:01,060
record is wondering what's gonna be

1207
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:04,670
[Applause]

1208
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:07,200
there to be multiple objects following

1209
00:53:12,050 --> 00:53:09,210
the face sort of the trajectory so very

1210
00:53:13,490 --> 00:53:12,060
bright where we were okay to copied

1211
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:13,500
under the third direction it was going

1212
00:53:25,730 --> 00:53:38,579
thank you

1213
00:53:38,589 --> 00:53:44,840
friggin

1214
00:53:44,850 --> 00:53:52,610
hey thank you

1215
00:54:03,870 --> 00:53:55,620
please bright-line Olimpica locking who

1216
00:54:09,270 --> 00:54:03,880
I gave it to the right okay we're

1217
00:54:15,570 --> 00:54:09,280
passing that on there thank you sweeper

1218
00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:15,580
at knife for shallow other aircraft in

1219
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,230
the air have also reported the same

1220
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,040
[Applause]

1221
00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:29,610
okay thank you so we don't know exactly

1222
00:54:34,050 --> 00:54:33,070
yeah how many pilots saw it seems like

1223
00:54:36,990 --> 00:54:34,060
it there there's got to be at least

1224
00:54:39,420 --> 00:54:37,000
three that openly discussed it this came

1225
00:54:41,490 --> 00:54:39,430
out it's great to have this audio to

1226
00:54:45,060 --> 00:54:41,500
listen to the whole thing I hear the

1227
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:45,070
entire exchange any quick thoughts

1228
00:54:49,470 --> 00:54:47,170
before we get to the video because we've

1229
00:54:50,970 --> 00:54:49,480
got video of this object as well taken

1230
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:50,980
from the ground in the northern part

1231
00:54:57,090 --> 00:54:54,190
Island I will play that after we get

1232
00:55:02,730 --> 00:54:57,100
through our analyzation of the audio any

1233
00:55:05,250 --> 00:55:02,740
quick thoughts I mean I have a kind of a

1234
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:05,260
rebuttal I guess from um from John

1235
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:06,880
Burroughs I touched base with him a

1236
00:55:10,950 --> 00:55:08,650
little bit I don't know if you want me

1237
00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:10,960
to share that now or maybe sure yeah no

1238
00:55:13,710 --> 00:55:11,560
sure go ahead

1239
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,720
okay base you know basically a lot of

1240
00:55:19,350 --> 00:55:15,520
people are saying that's it was a meteor

1241
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:19,360
or bolide um or whatever you want to

1242
00:55:24,170 --> 00:55:21,370
call it but um and that may be the case

1243
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:24,180
who really knows I don't know either way

1244
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:27,730
but uh Burroughs me they come in about

1245
00:55:35,010 --> 00:55:31,510
how some people have linked you know you

1246
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:35,020
ap to meteor activity like maybe they're

1247
00:55:40,650 --> 00:55:38,680
flying around together so I asked him

1248
00:55:42,750 --> 00:55:40,660
about that and he responded quote

1249
00:55:45,540 --> 00:55:42,760
project condign and pikes book goes into

1250
00:55:47,670 --> 00:55:45,550
rocky AP activity increases during those

1251
00:55:49,650 --> 00:55:47,680
kind of events Pike was studying the

1252
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:49,660
phenomenon to include the involvement of

1253
00:55:53,580 --> 00:55:51,850
that kind of activity is a boring stuff

1254
00:55:57,150 --> 00:55:53,590
but the military has been looking at

1255
00:56:00,810 --> 00:55:57,160
this for years to go it's a great way to

1256
00:56:01,740 --> 00:56:00,820
cloak your your ability and coming into

1257
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:01,750
our atmosphere

1258
00:56:08,730 --> 00:56:04,810
well how I would interject and say that

1259
00:56:11,370 --> 00:56:08,740
if the others have a hat do do have a

1260
00:56:14,310 --> 00:56:11,380
time scale in which they want to

1261
00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:14,320
introduce their presence then you could

1262
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:16,120
make the argument that they do see

1263
00:56:20,190 --> 00:56:18,130
meteor showers as an opportunity because

1264
00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:20,200
if there's meteor showers and you kind

1265
00:56:22,650 --> 00:56:22,000
of have a you have a more of a plausible

1266
00:56:24,450 --> 00:56:22,660
deniability

1267
00:56:27,210 --> 00:56:24,460
I mean I'm not saying that's likely but

1268
00:56:30,030 --> 00:56:27,220
it it could be it could factor into why

1269
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:30,040
the the UAP sometimes show up or it

1270
00:56:34,380 --> 00:56:32,230
could just be that meteor showers get

1271
00:56:37,050 --> 00:56:34,390
confused with UAP and it's just meteor

1272
00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:37,060
showers who knows yeah I think I have

1273
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,580
the video is it's pretty impressive but

1274
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:41,200
they're getting back to the audio it

1275
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:44,410
looks like if you look carefully at that

1276
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:47,650
where that the baw flight is you can see

1277
00:56:53,970 --> 00:56:52,000
it the path of the object must have been

1278
00:56:56,910 --> 00:56:53,980
north of where they're at she is talking

1279
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:56,920
about the the object coming up from

1280
00:57:02,490 --> 00:57:00,160
behind her to her left and passing her

1281
00:57:06,330 --> 00:57:02,500
by that way and then the the the Virgin

1282
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:06,340
flight which is several miles roughly to

1283
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:09,850
the west off the coast of Ireland he

1284
00:57:14,340 --> 00:57:12,130
sees it in his 11 o'clock position so

1285
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:14,350
you see the way his plane is pointed

1286
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:19,330
there at roughly 11 o'clock so uh excuse

1287
00:57:26,250 --> 00:57:22,810
me allergies unfortunately uh it looks

1288
00:57:31,790 --> 00:57:26,260
like maybe this object is roughly flying

1289
00:57:38,220 --> 00:57:36,540
your thoughts well I'll just say that

1290
00:57:39,690 --> 00:57:38,230
the fact that I guess it was three

1291
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:39,700
pilots when I was reading it earlier

1292
00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:42,610
some sources said to some set three so

1293
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:44,140
I'm not I guess I'm gonna take your word

1294
00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:47,890
for those three but at Rogow I mentioned

1295
00:57:52,620 --> 00:57:50,680
this and he said look pilots are trained

1296
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:52,630
observers they know what meteorites look

1297
00:57:59,820 --> 00:57:54,910
like and the fact that you have three

1298
00:58:01,770 --> 00:57:59,830
separate pilots radioing to the control

1299
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:01,780
towers is significant because you don't

1300
00:58:06,210 --> 00:58:03,850
you don't you utilize those lines unless

1301
00:58:08,130 --> 00:58:06,220
you really feel compelled to do so so on

1302
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:08,140
that account it makes me wonder maybe it

1303
00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:13,260
wants a genuine UFO you okay Frank uh

1304
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:14,950
yeah I'm having some knowledge

1305
00:58:17,950 --> 00:58:17,290
difficulties unfortunately thirds drying

1306
00:58:21,309 --> 00:58:17,960
out on me

1307
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:21,319
yeah one point no the one pilot you

1308
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:22,910
definitely saw it again we're not a

1309
00:58:28,270 --> 00:58:25,970
hundred percent sure which which flight

1310
00:58:33,339 --> 00:58:28,280
he's on have I identified it immediately

1311
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:33,349
as a meteor so that good point but we

1312
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:35,510
the point to believe you have our

1313
00:58:38,950 --> 00:58:37,010
witnesses so that really got my

1314
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:38,960
attention that did not get a lot of

1315
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:41,210
coverage in the the mainstream coverage

1316
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:43,359
and I think it's an important point I

1317
00:58:54,339 --> 00:58:51,710
believe you offer witnesses so so I'm

1318
00:58:56,740 --> 00:58:54,349
leaning hard towards meteorites for the

1319
00:58:58,450 --> 00:58:56,750
moment and then as the week went on that

1320
00:58:59,950 --> 00:58:58,460
would get a little bit more but you guys

1321
00:59:01,690 --> 00:58:59,960
have anything else you want to interject

1322
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:01,700
here because my voice is going on me

1323
00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:06,290
unfortunately I would say that we need

1324
00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:07,849
to be very careful with with these kind

1325
00:59:11,890 --> 00:59:09,740
of reports because you know we are part

1326
00:59:15,670 --> 00:59:11,900
of the quote unquote UFO community so I

1327
00:59:17,260 --> 00:59:15,680
think having a healthy amount of

1328
00:59:18,339 --> 00:59:17,270
skepticism with a report like this is

1329
00:59:20,049 --> 00:59:18,349
really important because if we're all

1330
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:20,059
like no man it wasn't a meteor it was a

1331
00:59:21,730 --> 00:59:20,569
UFO

1332
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:21,740
you know people gonna look at that like

1333
00:59:26,620 --> 00:59:23,359
these guys are crazy and and not not

1334
00:59:29,859 --> 00:59:26,630
only public perception but III think

1335
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:29,869
that Frank has a point you know I think

1336
00:59:35,109 --> 00:59:32,930
it's a very appropriate perspective to

1337
00:59:37,210 --> 00:59:35,119
think that it probably was a meteor it's

1338
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:37,220
all I got to say yeah I mean we've got

1339
00:59:40,690 --> 00:59:38,930
that plenty of information on this case

1340
00:59:42,190 --> 00:59:40,700
so it's great to see it it's great to be

1341
00:59:45,539 --> 00:59:42,200
able to break all this stuff down it

1342
00:59:49,140 --> 00:59:45,549
really is yeah I would like to see

1343
00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:49,150
actual radar if they picked anything up

1344
00:59:53,589 --> 00:59:51,319
apparently they didn't the guy on the

1345
00:59:55,329 --> 00:59:53,599
ground reports back from Island he must

1346
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:55,339
have been I'm not sure exactly where in

1347
01:00:00,010 --> 00:59:56,690
Ireland but he said they didn't have

1348
01:00:01,270 --> 01:00:00,020
anything on their radar hmm well

1349
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:01,280
unfortunately it's kind of like you know

1350
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:03,170
what what do we consider proof now at

1351
01:00:07,630 --> 01:00:06,049
this point also and maybe people are

1352
01:00:09,730 --> 01:00:07,640
seeing different things maybe they all

1353
01:00:11,770 --> 01:00:09,740
saw the same thing we just don't know

1354
01:00:14,950 --> 01:00:11,780
but you know even when we have videos of

1355
01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:14,960
stuff people say it's CGI or that we

1356
01:00:20,339 --> 01:00:16,790
have pilot testimony and they say it's

1357
01:00:25,089 --> 01:00:20,349
wrong so it's just it's really hard for

1358
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:25,099
any of us to to say what's going on but

1359
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:27,170
there was definitely meteors in there it

1360
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:30,170
seems like that night so well this

1361
01:00:37,550 --> 01:00:32,250
footage turned up on Friday

1362
01:00:40,730 --> 01:00:37,560
the newsletter co uk this is dash camera

1363
01:00:42,590 --> 01:00:40,740
footage from maybe a lady maybe a

1364
01:00:45,770 --> 01:00:42,600
gentleman named sandy Laverty in

1365
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:45,780
Colerain now to add that some additional

1366
01:00:50,030 --> 01:00:48,000
perspective on that the entire case this

1367
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:50,040
is taking place a quarter of 7:00 in the

1368
01:00:54,140 --> 01:00:50,490
morning

1369
01:00:56,780 --> 01:00:54,150
so these pilots are at the end of a long

1370
01:00:59,630 --> 01:00:56,790
overnight transatlantic flights this

1371
01:01:02,900 --> 01:00:59,640
individual sandy Laverty is driving

1372
01:01:04,690 --> 01:01:02,910
south to work in Colerain which is in

1373
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:04,700
the very northern part of Ireland and

1374
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:08,970
picks up this particular bit of video in

1375
01:01:14,570 --> 01:01:11,730
the dashboard cam apparently did not see

1376
01:01:17,150 --> 01:01:14,580
it because there's no mention now we can

1377
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:17,160
actually talk over the video but here's

1378
01:01:27,830 --> 01:01:25,550
and you can see in real-time how it's

1379
01:01:30,980 --> 01:01:27,840
two objects exactly the way the Virgin

1380
01:01:32,990 --> 01:01:30,990
air pilot described it so he's got a

1381
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:33,000
good eye the other pile of you said

1382
01:01:37,550 --> 01:01:35,250
meteor said multiple objects we're not

1383
01:01:38,990 --> 01:01:37,560
sure how many he means by that don't

1384
01:01:40,730 --> 01:01:39,000
know if he had a better look at it

1385
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:40,740
because closer we're not 100% sure about

1386
01:01:45,910 --> 01:01:42,690
that so there's still some unanswered

1387
01:01:48,620 --> 01:01:45,920
questions about the entire incident but

1388
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:48,630
you can see very clearly with a video

1389
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:52,110
slowdown you can see clearly two objects

1390
01:02:02,570 --> 01:01:54,330
this seems like a pretty good fit based

1391
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,580
on the time of the incident the date the

1392
01:02:06,530 --> 01:02:05,040
regarding the the media coverage I think

1393
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:06,540
it's very interesting because from my

1394
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:08,850
perspective let's call him the others I

1395
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,200
guess as well everyone likes to call him

1396
01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:12,480
these days the others have a new card up

1397
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:13,590
their sleeve that they never had before

1398
01:02:19,130 --> 01:02:16,650
I mean if something even half the

1399
01:02:21,410 --> 01:02:19,140
Phoenix lights were to happen today you

1400
01:02:24,980 --> 01:02:21,420
can only imagine how then how the media

1401
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:24,990
would just latch on to it and it's it's

1402
01:02:28,370 --> 01:02:26,580
it's almost as if the others have more

1403
01:02:29,660 --> 01:02:28,380
control over disclosure than they've

1404
01:02:32,570 --> 01:02:29,670
ever had before you can make that

1405
01:02:34,820 --> 01:02:32,580
argument I would agree I mean Tucker

1406
01:02:38,540 --> 01:02:34,830
Carlson actually had a pre-launch

1407
01:02:41,570 --> 01:02:38,550
segment about this very event so I agree

1408
01:02:45,110 --> 01:02:41,580
and the media coverage is huge

1409
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:45,120
now more than ever I have so many mixed

1410
01:02:49,660 --> 01:02:46,890
feelings about the Tucker Carlson stuff

1411
01:02:52,820 --> 01:02:49,670
I think some of it is really great

1412
01:02:54,170 --> 01:02:52,830
did y'all actually see the whole the

1413
01:02:58,430 --> 01:02:54,180
whole Ireland thing like that other guy

1414
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:58,440
he was smiling the whole time and it was

1415
01:03:01,460 --> 01:02:59,760
really cool that they were talking about

1416
01:03:03,650 --> 01:03:01,470
it and it was cool that was on a major

1417
01:03:07,930 --> 01:03:03,660
network at the same time I didn't think

1418
01:03:14,540 --> 01:03:10,820
Tucker I'm gonna break something is a

1419
01:03:17,090 --> 01:03:14,550
closeted UFO not researcher but he's

1420
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:17,100
very interested in the subject yeah he's

1421
01:03:21,050 --> 01:03:19,170
been on this even before there was a TTS

1422
01:03:26,180 --> 01:03:21,060
a he would do the occasional story on

1423
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:26,190
UFOs and they would pop so and shout out

1424
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:28,050
to him for doing it I just I kind of

1425
01:03:38,270 --> 01:03:35,660
so the smiling guy there were smaller

1426
01:03:41,140 --> 01:03:38,280
I'll ask him on Twitter yeah I think

1427
01:03:47,319 --> 01:03:41,150
he's too busy with the whole antifa

1428
01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:47,329
Fiasco his house right now but I digress

1429
01:03:51,319 --> 01:03:49,619
so right yeah it definitely got a lot of

1430
01:03:52,940 --> 01:03:51,329
big coverage in that Danny you played

1431
01:03:54,829 --> 01:03:52,950
something of a role in that

1432
01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:54,839
getting raagh away who seemed to be the

1433
01:03:59,270 --> 01:03:56,760
catalyst for that the mainstream really

1434
01:04:00,920 --> 01:03:59,280
picking this up can you go into that a

1435
01:04:02,750 --> 01:04:00,930
little bit you got a nice little shout

1436
01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:02,760
out for him in his article man that was

1437
01:04:07,789 --> 01:04:05,040
so nice of him it made me feel so great

1438
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:07,799
but uh I didn't do a whole lot I think

1439
01:04:12,530 --> 01:04:09,450
maybe my site was probably the first

1440
01:04:17,089 --> 01:04:12,540
American site to to run the story but um

1441
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:17,099
Jamie had posted it on Facebook and I'm

1442
01:04:22,579 --> 01:04:20,490
immediately it reminded me of of Arizona

1443
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:22,589
and or again and the other rogue lay

1444
01:04:27,559 --> 01:04:26,250
stories so uh I ran it and I it was like

1445
01:04:31,940 --> 01:04:27,569
4:00 in the morning when it broke I

1446
01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:31,950
didn't sleep at all that night but yeah

1447
01:04:35,870 --> 01:04:33,960
I think I maybe had the first in America

1448
01:04:37,220 --> 01:04:35,880
but on that isn't a whole lot it's not

1449
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:37,230
like I came up with a story or anything

1450
01:04:42,770 --> 01:04:38,970
like that I just was able to see the UM

1451
01:04:44,809 --> 01:04:42,780
the Irish reports and brogue away is the

1452
01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:44,819
man he's all of his articles are

1453
01:04:49,370 --> 01:04:47,190
incredible he's done historic work and

1454
01:04:51,430 --> 01:04:49,380
I'm sorry we were all just were waiting

1455
01:04:55,460 --> 01:04:51,440
he's a bad man

1456
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:55,470
yeah he's a good guy to have on our side

1457
01:04:59,870 --> 01:04:58,319
he really is he's more thorough than

1458
01:05:02,210 --> 01:04:59,880
everybody else and he knows more about

1459
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:02,220
aviation than everybody else so like you

1460
01:05:04,849 --> 01:05:03,690
know you can read CNN you could read Fox

1461
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:04,859
News you can read this and that but

1462
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:06,329
rogue away is that is definitely the

1463
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:07,680
best source when it comes to sightings

1464
01:05:12,289 --> 01:05:10,260
yeah hopefully we have more cases like

1465
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:12,299
this because it was a fun kind of

1466
01:05:16,010 --> 01:05:14,250
putting together the breakdown and the

1467
01:05:19,130 --> 01:05:16,020
play-by-play of what happened there well

1468
01:05:21,789 --> 01:05:19,140
here's I'm sorry Frank yeah yeah just

1469
01:05:24,530 --> 01:05:21,799
there just to finish up Dave Beatty had

1470
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:24,540
really inspired me to put a little

1471
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:26,250
something more than the usual together

1472
01:05:31,579 --> 01:05:29,369
and I'll try to visualize this event so

1473
01:05:33,319 --> 01:05:31,589
I channeled Dave a little bit when I put

1474
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:33,329
this together hopefully yeah folks do

1475
01:05:36,170 --> 01:05:35,609
have a clearer idea of what actually

1476
01:05:39,079 --> 01:05:36,180
happened

1477
01:05:40,730 --> 01:05:39,089
and again I'm definitely after seeing

1478
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:40,740
that video I'm definitely and the fact

1479
01:05:48,489 --> 01:05:43,849
that it coincided so well with what the

1480
01:05:51,370 --> 01:05:48,499
Virgen a pilot to report it now one

1481
01:05:53,259 --> 01:05:51,380
thing it's important to note and I want

1482
01:05:54,940 --> 01:05:53,269
to get to this before we move on in that

1483
01:05:57,339 --> 01:05:54,950
review Dave spill which we certainly

1484
01:05:59,650 --> 01:05:57,349
want to do one thing that I want to note

1485
01:06:02,229 --> 01:05:59,660
is that video of course was taken in the

1486
01:06:04,059 --> 01:06:02,239
very northern part of Ireland Ireland is

1487
01:06:07,049 --> 01:06:04,069
a roughly three hundred miles from the

1488
01:06:10,989 --> 01:06:07,059
northern tip down to the southern tip so

1489
01:06:14,140 --> 01:06:10,999
in the video the object is a pretty low

1490
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:14,150
in the sky so as a result of that I'm

1491
01:06:19,569 --> 01:06:17,720
gonna have to assume it's not 150 miles

1492
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:19,579
to the south of the folks in the north

1493
01:06:26,380 --> 01:06:23,359
or 150 miles north of the pilots it

1494
01:06:28,299 --> 01:06:26,390
seems like it's a the altitude is a lot

1495
01:06:30,309 --> 01:06:28,309
higher than that so it's got to be a lot

1496
01:06:32,739 --> 01:06:30,319
closer to these pilots and maybe within

1497
01:06:34,870 --> 01:06:32,749
a hundred miles maybe even closer than

1498
01:06:40,210 --> 01:06:34,880
that maybe 50 miles who knows everything

1499
01:06:41,739 --> 01:06:40,220
this with the British lady pilot you

1500
01:06:42,370 --> 01:06:41,749
know you've got to wonder exactly how

1501
01:06:44,529 --> 01:06:42,380
close it was

1502
01:06:47,979 --> 01:06:44,539
and now looking at that video from you

1503
01:06:49,959 --> 01:06:47,989
know maybe 200 miles away maybe 250

1504
01:06:51,489 --> 01:06:49,969
miles away if you're seeing that a lot

1505
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,499
closer that's gonna give you quite a

1506
01:06:56,289 --> 01:06:53,119
start if you guys got to see that video

1507
01:06:58,479 --> 01:06:56,299
I'm not sure if it or not yeah I've seen

1508
01:07:00,489 --> 01:06:58,489
it my question is what does a bolide

1509
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:00,499
look when it's coming into her

1510
01:07:06,539 --> 01:07:02,930
atmosphere and heading towards the earth

1511
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:06,549
what does it mean I'm not seeing any UFO

1512
01:07:12,069 --> 01:07:09,410
researcher give me a visual

1513
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:12,079
representation I've only seen a meteor

1514
01:07:17,890 --> 01:07:14,930
at close range once in my life and it

1515
01:07:20,289 --> 01:07:17,900
was a hugely epic moment of my life

1516
01:07:22,809 --> 01:07:20,299
there's maybe a quarter mile away from

1517
01:07:25,539 --> 01:07:22,819
where my cousin and I were camping at

1518
01:07:27,759 --> 01:07:25,549
night and it was a huge display and that

1519
01:07:31,359 --> 01:07:27,769
lasted maybe two or three seconds it was

1520
01:07:33,279 --> 01:07:31,369
really really bright it lit up the land

1521
01:07:35,229 --> 01:07:33,289
like it was daylight it was really crazy

1522
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:35,239
and I've never seen anything like that

1523
01:07:39,729 --> 01:07:37,849
ever again but I would just like to know

1524
01:07:42,089 --> 01:07:39,739
where the bolide looks like now I'm not

1525
01:07:47,319 --> 01:07:42,099
saying that it's not a meteor it's just

1526
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:47,329
that's the background I guess I'm sure

1527
01:07:52,420 --> 01:07:50,690
there were videos of the ID'd of ID'd

1528
01:07:57,070 --> 01:07:52,430
meteors are coming in that you can check

1529
01:07:59,080 --> 01:07:57,080
out they often turn up if you're right

1530
01:08:04,390 --> 01:07:59,090
I'm sorry about that affair you remember

1531
01:08:06,310 --> 01:08:04,400
the meteorite that crashed in the Soviet

1532
01:08:09,610 --> 01:08:06,320
era the Russia a few years back I think

1533
01:08:11,380 --> 01:08:09,620
there plenty of it oh yeah yeah you can

1534
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:11,390
see it and again it it looks pretty

1535
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:16,250
consistent but we'll see I will see if I

1536
01:08:21,250 --> 01:08:18,170
some more stuff comes out but with the

1537
01:08:23,260 --> 01:08:21,260
video with the pilot accounts and again

1538
01:08:25,210 --> 01:08:23,270
that one pilot jumping in right away say

1539
01:08:28,210 --> 01:08:25,220
he thought it was a meteor or a bolide I

1540
01:08:31,180 --> 01:08:28,220
would say that that's pretty solid like

1541
01:08:33,579 --> 01:08:31,190
I said I believe the witnesses yes

1542
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:33,589
otherwise it's a little unfortunate that

1543
01:08:37,630 --> 01:08:35,690
this one got kind of muddy I mean I but

1544
01:08:38,770 --> 01:08:37,640
we do just want the truth period but

1545
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:38,780
this one kind of got a little bit

1546
01:08:42,820 --> 01:08:40,310
muddied up but then you we could still

1547
01:08:45,820 --> 01:08:42,830
go back to Arizona or again and these

1548
01:08:48,070 --> 01:08:45,830
other ones where there was no meteors so

1549
01:08:50,740 --> 01:08:48,080
it was in the it was in the daytime as

1550
01:08:53,020 --> 01:08:50,750
well yeah yeah yeah you got to imagine

1551
01:08:56,650 --> 01:08:53,030
these pilots I mean these are overnight

1552
01:08:58,930 --> 01:08:56,660
transatlantic flights I think the the

1553
01:09:00,640 --> 01:08:58,940
Virgin air guy was maybe it was the bird

1554
01:09:01,750 --> 01:09:00,650
that no it was actually the pilot who

1555
01:09:03,460 --> 01:09:01,760
said he yeah I thought it was a meteor

1556
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:03,470
it was kind of saying I'm glad somebody

1557
01:09:07,570 --> 01:09:04,850
else saw that you know you don't know

1558
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,580
how tired some of these guys are what

1559
01:09:11,079 --> 01:09:08,960
kind of schedules they're working at

1560
01:09:12,250 --> 01:09:11,089
7:00 is they been working overnight and

1561
01:09:14,970 --> 01:09:12,260
it's quarter of 7:00 in the morning

1562
01:09:18,250 --> 01:09:14,980
after a long flight across the Atlantic

1563
01:09:19,690 --> 01:09:18,260
you know they've got to be a little

1564
01:09:21,340 --> 01:09:19,700
concerned sometimes about their their

1565
01:09:23,140 --> 01:09:21,350
own senses playing tricks on over making

1566
01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:23,150
sure that what they're seeing is

1567
01:09:28,090 --> 01:09:25,370
actually there so there was some

1568
01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:28,100
expression of relief from the one pilot

1569
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:32,510
when it was confirmed to him what he saw

1570
01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:34,850
was seen by others as well so that's a

1571
01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:42,680
good thing for that assay it's you know

1572
01:09:47,260 --> 01:09:45,350
it's it's better I mean you know even

1573
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:47,270
you know such a case like this comes up

1574
01:09:52,870 --> 01:09:50,330
and it's not anything and we cover it I

1575
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:52,880
mean it it's only making us more

1576
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:55,490
competent that we're able to to kind of

1577
01:10:00,670 --> 01:09:57,530
settle on what you know what it likely

1578
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:00,680
is rather than jumping at every every

1579
01:10:05,770 --> 01:10:04,010
anomalous event and saying UFO we were

1580
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:05,780
able to break it down we've got some

1581
01:10:10,150 --> 01:10:08,510
data and we've got enough to go on yeah

1582
01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:10,160
so you know I mean that only proves our

1583
01:10:12,970 --> 01:10:10,880
competence

1584
01:10:14,140 --> 01:10:12,980
as researchers in the field and the

1585
01:10:16,660 --> 01:10:14,150
fields can be taken more seriously

1586
01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:16,670
because you know rather than this

1587
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:18,380
getting out you know it you know it's

1588
01:10:21,370 --> 01:10:19,730
kind of cool that it made I like it you

1589
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:21,380
also worry around the world you know

1590
01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:23,210
it's and you know it's pretty cool with

1591
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:24,710
himself but that we're able to kind of

1592
01:10:28,990 --> 01:10:26,810
do damage control hey wait you know

1593
01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,000
looking at all the data it's like it's

1594
01:10:34,330 --> 01:10:31,760
you know your Occam's razor it's likely

1595
01:10:37,570 --> 01:10:34,340
this this is not a significant case as

1596
01:10:42,189 --> 01:10:37,580
far as you age you know it just proves

1597
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:42,199
our our competence and in it and also it

1598
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:45,920
helps us within the community from you

1599
01:10:48,610 --> 01:10:48,110
know it the store spinning out of

1600
01:10:50,430 --> 01:10:48,620
control

1601
01:10:52,570 --> 01:10:50,440
you know if we're able to provide

1602
01:10:54,340 --> 01:10:52,580
information to other researchers and

1603
01:10:56,229 --> 01:10:54,350
break it down for them so they're not

1604
01:10:58,510 --> 01:10:56,239
they're not going on social networking

1605
01:11:02,229 --> 01:10:58,520
posting saying this is UFO this do this

1606
01:11:04,660 --> 01:11:02,239
UFO like it's a meteor you know so we

1607
01:11:08,470 --> 01:11:04,670
can kind of contain that by doing good

1608
01:11:11,229 --> 01:11:08,480
works 100% convinced either way but

1609
01:11:13,540 --> 01:11:11,239
there was meteors in there and that's

1610
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:13,550
for sure but um I do like John Burroughs

1611
01:11:18,250 --> 01:11:15,920
point about you know the you ap activity

1612
01:11:20,470 --> 01:11:18,260
during these meteor showers maybe and I

1613
01:11:22,300 --> 01:11:20,480
that's something I'm gonna be trying to

1614
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:22,310
dig up more info on and if anyone has

1615
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:23,510
anything about that please send it to me

1616
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:26,719
and like Frank said real quick I know he

1617
01:11:31,570 --> 01:11:29,570
wants to go to the other next thing that

1618
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:31,580
we're gonna talk about but I do believe

1619
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:35,810
witnesses and initially and now correct

1620
01:11:40,660 --> 01:11:37,489
me if I'm wrong but one of the pouts

1621
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:40,670
said it made a turn and in my opinion

1622
01:11:46,419 --> 01:11:43,370
meteors don't do that but I you know I

1623
01:11:48,129 --> 01:11:46,429
I'm not a scientist I'm not you know I'm

1624
01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:48,139
not anything like that and I don't claim

1625
01:11:56,649 --> 01:11:52,310
to be so we'll see I'm with ania and not

1626
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:56,659
convinced either way really yeah the

1627
01:12:00,580 --> 01:11:58,400
point I'm trying to make though is you

1628
01:12:02,379 --> 01:12:00,590
know what cases as a community do we

1629
01:12:04,990 --> 01:12:02,389
want to emphasize and really lean on as

1630
01:12:06,550 --> 01:12:05,000
you know to hold our argument right

1631
01:12:08,290 --> 01:12:06,560
you're trying to persuade people about

1632
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:08,300
the UAP presence this is not the

1633
01:12:13,270 --> 01:12:10,850
authority to harness for that right yeah

1634
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,280
it's I mean it's very important to

1635
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:15,679
report on I'm not saying that and it's

1636
01:12:19,959 --> 01:12:18,530
important to investigate but you know is

1637
01:12:22,510 --> 01:12:19,969
this a case that we want to bring you

1638
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:22,520
know as a headline to Congress to try to

1639
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:24,050
convince them maybe we have better cases

1640
01:12:26,670 --> 01:12:24,790
No

1641
01:12:27,950 --> 01:12:26,680
you know what I mean it's like we have

1642
01:12:34,110 --> 01:12:27,960
[Music]

1643
01:12:40,410 --> 01:12:34,120
pancakes made for other stories that I

1644
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:40,420
can't even mention this show let's move

1645
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:44,530
on and let's get to this past Wednesday

1646
01:12:51,210 --> 01:12:47,850
when Dave Beatty finally released is

1647
01:12:53,940 --> 01:12:51,220
documentaries triumph mimics encounters

1648
01:12:55,620 --> 01:12:53,950
and everybody who's seen it does anyone

1649
01:13:04,050 --> 01:12:55,630
not think that this is a great little

1650
01:13:06,410 --> 01:13:04,060
documentary Frank you said it best and I

1651
01:13:08,820 --> 01:13:06,420
think you're right this is the best

1652
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:08,830
reenactment of a UFO event and in the

1653
01:13:17,070 --> 01:13:11,890
history of television frankly I agree

1654
01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:17,080
with myself on that I agree I've never

1655
01:13:21,450 --> 01:13:18,760
seen anything that goes into this comedy

1656
01:13:23,070 --> 01:13:21,460
travel that's done as well

1657
01:13:25,710 --> 01:13:23,080
we had day back on an April we'll have

1658
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:25,720
him back on again but I I'm so proud to

1659
01:13:29,550 --> 01:13:27,550
know the guy I really am what he turns

1660
01:13:32,060 --> 01:13:29,560
out this kind of work this was a long

1661
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:32,070
time coming yeah basically a one-man job

1662
01:13:37,260 --> 01:13:35,110
to a large extent as far as doing the

1663
01:13:43,980 --> 01:13:37,270
CGI work and doing the cutting in all

1664
01:13:45,450 --> 01:13:43,990
the thousand hours I don't know who's

1665
01:13:47,370 --> 01:13:45,460
joking or not but he said a thousand oh

1666
01:13:50,550 --> 01:13:47,380
no I believe it I believe it I believe

1667
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:50,560
it no doubt that CGI work is tough work

1668
01:13:54,450 --> 01:13:52,570
if you guys oh yeah I've ever played

1669
01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:54,460
around with that a little bit it's

1670
01:13:59,690 --> 01:13:56,620
definitely tough work but really quickly

1671
01:14:02,790 --> 01:13:59,700
some more specific thoughts on the movie

1672
01:14:04,890 --> 01:14:02,800
you know and it's free and it's on the

1673
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:04,900
internet right now we can be sending

1674
01:14:08,130 --> 01:14:06,430
this link to anyone we want to and

1675
01:14:10,050 --> 01:14:08,140
that's what Steve that Steven Bassets

1676
01:14:11,340 --> 01:14:10,060
doing so this is this really cool I know

1677
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:11,350
people that don't really know anything

1678
01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:13,510
about the tic-tac now all of a sudden I

1679
01:14:17,970 --> 01:14:15,940
can send them this and I think this is

1680
01:14:19,530 --> 01:14:17,980
going to be a big tool for us probably

1681
01:14:22,230 --> 01:14:19,540
for years to come we could be sending

1682
01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:22,240
people this I am excited to hear that

1683
01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:24,430
Kevin day said another tic-tac

1684
01:14:27,990 --> 01:14:25,720
documentary is going to be coming out

1685
01:14:29,670 --> 01:14:28,000
too but um especially because Dave was

1686
01:14:32,850 --> 01:14:29,680
so accurate and everything was so

1687
01:14:34,290 --> 01:14:32,860
credible that he did he was just really

1688
01:14:36,630 --> 01:14:34,300
really accurate there's no exploitation

1689
01:14:38,500 --> 01:14:36,640
at all he's talked to all the witnesses

1690
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:38,510
this is incredible job

1691
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:40,850
and he's got that Kevin in there doing

1692
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:43,970
basically a recreation of what a radar

1693
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:46,010
operator would be saying to pilots

1694
01:14:51,670 --> 01:14:49,130
communicating back and forth we don't

1695
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:51,680
have audio what we do with the iris case

1696
01:14:57,730 --> 01:14:53,690
but this is about as close as you're

1697
01:15:00,850 --> 01:14:57,740
gonna get yeah I think what Dave did is

1698
01:15:02,860 --> 01:15:00,860
going to ripple out as we as we move

1699
01:15:05,710 --> 01:15:02,870
into disclosure and beyond I think that

1700
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:05,720
these these really amazing reenactments

1701
01:15:10,060 --> 01:15:07,730
are going to become very relatively

1702
01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:10,070
common and I think he's a pioneer in it

1703
01:15:13,660 --> 01:15:12,080
for sure and I think that we're gonna

1704
01:15:15,130 --> 01:15:13,670
start seeing you know obviously he can't

1705
01:15:16,330 --> 01:15:15,140
do all of the reenactments because he

1706
01:15:17,650 --> 01:15:16,340
only has so many there's only so many

1707
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:17,660
hours in the day but we're gonna start

1708
01:15:25,570 --> 01:15:21,410
seeing I predict reenactments of the the

1709
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:25,580
Iran event and and all the other events

1710
01:15:28,750 --> 01:15:26,930
that have taken place you're gonna start

1711
01:15:30,730 --> 01:15:28,760
seeing those crop up because you know

1712
01:15:33,010 --> 01:15:30,740
when when all of humanity starts

1713
01:15:34,690 --> 01:15:33,020
realizing that all of this is real the

1714
01:15:36,250 --> 01:15:34,700
incentive to create incredible

1715
01:15:39,220 --> 01:15:36,260
reenactments is just going to go through

1716
01:15:41,980 --> 01:15:39,230
the roof and that's why I've tried to

1717
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:41,990
send it to people who were loosely

1718
01:15:47,260 --> 01:15:45,050
wanting to know more about it and to

1719
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:47,270
people like my friends and family who

1720
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:49,310
don't care about the UFO phenomena at

1721
01:15:54,610 --> 01:15:52,010
all I want them to watch this and be

1722
01:15:57,250 --> 01:15:54,620
blown away in the neck come back and say

1723
01:15:59,800 --> 01:15:57,260
hey I guess you weren't that crazy Chris

1724
01:16:01,420 --> 01:15:59,810
you know so I think it's an excellent

1725
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:01,430
thing I think it's one of the best

1726
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:04,010
things that's happened in the last long

1727
01:16:10,330 --> 01:16:06,110
time I don't even know how long maybe

1728
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:10,340
since to the stars became a reality it

1729
01:16:15,490 --> 01:16:13,250
really is a huge huge deal and I don't

1730
01:16:17,530 --> 01:16:15,500
think Dave realizes that I think that

1731
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:17,540
the fact that Steve Barron sent it out

1732
01:16:22,030 --> 01:16:19,250
the fact that he's gonna sent to

1733
01:16:24,910 --> 01:16:22,040
Congress the fact that other people are

1734
01:16:26,890 --> 01:16:24,920
gonna be watching this for like I don't

1735
01:16:29,440 --> 01:16:26,900
know who said that I got a short-term

1736
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:29,450
memory just a second ago that from years

1737
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:30,110
to come

1738
01:16:39,150 --> 01:16:33,570
it's a I was that was that was UFO Jesus

1739
01:16:43,570 --> 01:16:41,500
but you know you know it all stems back

1740
01:16:47,110 --> 01:16:43,580
to to the Stars Academy I mean we we

1741
01:16:50,230 --> 01:16:47,120
can't really perceive the ripple effect

1742
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:50,240
the the gigantic rock that has fallen

1743
01:16:54,090 --> 01:16:51,610
thousands of

1744
01:16:58,979 --> 01:16:54,100
into the ocean I mean what what what

1745
01:17:01,919 --> 01:16:58,989
they did is a direct outcome of to the

1746
01:17:03,510 --> 01:17:01,929
Stars Academy know without October 11th

1747
01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:03,520
this documentary doesn't exist and you

1748
01:17:05,729 --> 01:17:05,199
guys have to think what else doesn't

1749
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:05,739
exist

1750
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:08,560
well this podcast sometimes you can't

1751
01:17:12,450 --> 01:17:10,810
exactly it my youtube channel

1752
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:12,460
there you go and when you look at it in

1753
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:16,330
a macrocosmic level it really gives you

1754
01:17:20,580 --> 01:17:18,250
a glimpse into you know what nothing

1755
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:20,590
stopping disclosure now like that rock

1756
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:23,170
has already hit that ocean and those

1757
01:17:26,729 --> 01:17:25,570
those waves are just coming out and no

1758
01:17:28,350 --> 01:17:26,739
they're gonna keep coming out there

1759
01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:28,360
there's nothing that can stop it not not

1760
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:29,830
any religious fundamentalists in the

1761
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:32,050
Pentagon not anyone in the Pentagon that

1762
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:34,239
doesn't want to go to jail for their

1763
01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:36,489
crimes whatever it's it's it's a done

1764
01:17:45,660 --> 01:17:42,580
game as far as I'm concerned yeah I

1765
01:17:48,660 --> 01:17:45,670
think so I mean there's yeah everything

1766
01:17:51,450 --> 01:17:48,670
that's that's come out since it's built

1767
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:51,460
such a momentum and you know it seems

1768
01:17:57,570 --> 01:17:54,489
like we're not even we're not even

1769
01:17:59,669 --> 01:17:57,580
seeing the the real effects from it yet

1770
01:18:08,790 --> 01:17:59,679
I mean like the most deepest impact of

1771
01:18:11,780 --> 01:18:08,800
it a tip of the iceberg James UFO Jesus

1772
01:18:14,430 --> 01:18:11,790
here's praising us with a good word of

1773
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:14,440
is going I mean this is you know a

1774
01:18:19,530 --> 01:18:16,570
historic moment that is gonna have an

1775
01:18:21,330 --> 01:18:19,540
effect for decades you know I mean

1776
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:21,340
obviously we're probably gonna see a lot

1777
01:18:25,859 --> 01:18:24,310
of heartening short-term effects but I

1778
01:18:28,859 --> 01:18:25,869
mean this really changed the course of

1779
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:28,869
history for the subject wasn't really

1780
01:18:34,290 --> 01:18:31,090
crazy to me and some people kick around

1781
01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:34,300
this area it may be true is that maybe

1782
01:18:39,330 --> 01:18:36,489
the only reason the Nimet stuff came out

1783
01:18:41,580 --> 01:18:39,340
was because that video was leaked years

1784
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:41,590
prior so that might have been the only

1785
01:18:45,330 --> 01:18:43,449
reason like how many other incredible

1786
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:45,340
incredible cases are there I mean I know

1787
01:18:50,669 --> 01:18:47,710
that I'm still dying I find out more

1788
01:18:53,430 --> 01:18:50,679
about Stephenville because I did yeah I

1789
01:18:54,990 --> 01:18:53,440
mentioned before that I did get in the

1790
01:18:56,430 --> 01:18:55,000
question with George Knapp when he was

1791
01:18:58,439 --> 01:18:56,440
doing a little AMA over at the

1792
01:19:00,300 --> 01:18:58,449
coast-to-coast site asked them

1793
01:19:02,189 --> 01:19:00,310
specifically did these guys because it

1794
01:19:04,540 --> 01:19:02,199
happened it happened well on elizondo's

1795
01:19:07,899 --> 01:19:04,550
watch did they investigate Steven

1796
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:07,909
also that yeah the case right in your

1797
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:09,650
neck of the woods Danny that is the case

1798
01:19:14,890 --> 01:19:11,690
yeah I want to find out more about what

1799
01:19:17,589 --> 01:19:14,900
they got on their end because they're

1800
01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:17,599
scrambling jets for like almost it seems

1801
01:19:25,270 --> 01:19:20,599
like yeah really I mean we have no idea

1802
01:19:28,930 --> 01:19:25,280
there's a lot well I would imagine that

1803
01:19:31,169 --> 01:19:28,940
the government has and I use that term

1804
01:19:35,910 --> 01:19:31,179
loosely but the government probably has

1805
01:19:42,850 --> 01:19:35,920
thousands of hours of footage of varying

1806
01:19:45,459 --> 01:19:42,860
various scenes objects from world war ii

1807
01:19:49,540 --> 01:19:45,469
and maybe even a little bit before to

1808
01:19:51,370 --> 01:19:49,550
president day right now go ahead right

1809
01:19:52,629 --> 01:19:51,380
well I want to say what I'm sorry to

1810
01:19:56,770 --> 01:19:52,639
interrupt you but what disturbs me about

1811
01:19:59,260 --> 01:19:56,780
what he was saying Chris is that not

1812
01:20:01,600 --> 01:19:59,270
only do they have hours of footage but

1813
01:20:03,069 --> 01:20:01,610
the resolution on that footage is way

1814
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:03,079
better than what we saw I mean I mean

1815
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:05,690
framers said that he saw a video with

1816
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:07,250
much better resolution to the extent

1817
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:08,570
that he could actually see appendages

1818
01:20:12,459 --> 01:20:10,730
coming out of the damn object and he had

1819
01:20:13,299 --> 01:20:12,469
also said he also mentioned a lot of

1820
01:20:15,459 --> 01:20:13,309
people didn't catch this he also

1821
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:15,469
mentioned that small little objects also

1822
01:20:18,580 --> 01:20:16,730
descended out of the object now I'm

1823
01:20:21,910 --> 01:20:18,590
thinking about yellow this is only one

1824
01:20:23,709 --> 01:20:21,920
video the US government has hundreds of

1825
01:20:25,060 --> 01:20:23,719
these videos with high resolution it's

1826
01:20:26,410 --> 01:20:25,070
like why are we having this truth

1827
01:20:28,930 --> 01:20:26,420
embargo does anyone does anyone know

1828
01:20:30,910 --> 01:20:28,940
that's Dave's movie only covers that one

1829
01:20:32,379 --> 01:20:30,920
flight that he's got a lot of details on

1830
01:20:34,660 --> 01:20:32,389
but there were multiple flights we know

1831
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:34,670
that they know here we mentioned it in

1832
01:20:40,030 --> 01:20:38,449
the movie but they fade he's in the chat

1833
01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:40,040
right now and he just said Kevin day

1834
01:20:43,780 --> 01:20:42,170
said many pilots are launched and they

1835
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:43,790
were all making intercepts that day not

1836
01:20:48,490 --> 01:20:47,090
just one awesome

1837
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:48,500
yeah I was gonna say in you know

1838
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:50,570
somebody also made the point somewhere

1839
01:20:54,010 --> 01:20:52,010
that um you know that was the FLIR

1840
01:20:57,250 --> 01:20:54,020
footage that wasn't even the electrical

1841
01:20:59,770 --> 01:20:57,260
data that wasn't D like the gun camera

1842
01:21:03,069 --> 01:20:59,780
footage of you know just what they were

1843
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:03,079
seeing that was just a FLIR footage and

1844
01:21:07,899 --> 01:21:06,050
if you look at the Roosevelt 2015 event

1845
01:21:10,270 --> 01:21:07,909
off the coast of Florida we only get a

1846
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:10,280
small small little like piece of it it's

1847
01:21:13,959 --> 01:21:12,650
a much longer video so it's like I keep

1848
01:21:16,359 --> 01:21:13,969
asking myself why are we having this

1849
01:21:17,939 --> 01:21:16,369
truth embargo the US government has like

1850
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:17,949
endless amounts of evidence yet

1851
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:19,690
we're just we're a bunch of Schmucks on

1852
01:21:27,890 --> 01:21:24,239
the outside debating this subject what

1853
01:21:30,270 --> 01:21:27,900
stuff you know put off has told us that

1854
01:21:32,759 --> 01:21:30,280
you know they have what is it like 12

1855
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:32,769
hours of klaris Island footage that

1856
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:35,050
Brazilian government recorded that bass

1857
01:21:38,850 --> 01:21:36,729
received it or something like that along

1858
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:38,860
those lines I mean that's there it's on

1859
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:45,010
deck I mean I just want to see it I was

1860
01:21:48,660 --> 01:21:46,719
gonna say because we can see that those

1861
01:21:50,790 --> 01:21:48,670
discs that were present again on the

1862
01:21:52,469 --> 01:21:50,800
website actually had declassified

1863
01:21:55,379 --> 01:21:52,479
written all over them from the Pentagon

1864
01:21:56,939 --> 01:21:55,389
so these must have been somewhere or

1865
01:21:59,370 --> 01:21:56,949
somehow they must have been officially

1866
01:22:01,290 --> 01:21:59,380
released by the government right it had

1867
01:22:03,810 --> 01:22:01,300
got Declassified written on to the discs

1868
01:22:05,430 --> 01:22:03,820
that they're prepared on if there's four

1869
01:22:07,469 --> 01:22:05,440
of those discs they must have so much

1870
01:22:08,879 --> 01:22:07,479
more information on them all right

1871
01:22:10,169 --> 01:22:08,889
computer Ryan's point there must be

1872
01:22:12,060 --> 01:22:10,179
thousands of hours you know what I mean

1873
01:22:13,979 --> 01:22:12,070
this is just like a small tiny little

1874
01:22:15,540 --> 01:22:13,989
sample of data that they've got present

1875
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:15,550
even if it's a few gigabytes of data

1876
01:22:19,169 --> 01:22:17,530
it's gonna be tiny compared to what

1877
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:19,179
they've got but that information is

1878
01:22:23,609 --> 01:22:21,489
Declassified now I figure if they've got

1879
01:22:25,830 --> 01:22:23,619
their HD resolution footage you can see

1880
01:22:27,089 --> 01:22:25,840
it really really well probably a case

1881
01:22:28,169 --> 01:22:27,099
that they don't want to release that at

1882
01:22:30,959 --> 01:22:28,179
the moment because it's just gonna be

1883
01:22:34,319 --> 01:22:30,969
too great groundbreaking too quickly it

1884
01:22:35,699 --> 01:22:34,329
seems like slow release yeah they want a

1885
01:22:37,199 --> 01:22:35,709
slow release of information and when a

1886
01:22:42,060 --> 01:22:37,209
climate sighs people to this stuff

1887
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:42,070
that's how it looks to me you know they

1888
01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:44,170
want to walk the public to this

1889
01:22:48,540 --> 01:22:46,209
phenomena not run them because if you

1890
01:22:51,330 --> 01:22:48,550
run them the public's gonna go haywire

1891
01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:51,340
whether you like it or not they are even

1892
01:22:57,029 --> 01:22:54,070
all I hear people all the time tell me

1893
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:57,039
but Chris December 16th didn't do

1894
01:23:02,850 --> 01:22:57,610
anything

1895
01:23:06,569 --> 01:23:02,860
nobody cares now Chris there it's a

1896
01:23:10,890 --> 01:23:06,579
ridiculous argument I really do disagree

1897
01:23:13,020 --> 01:23:10,900
too because I was on a radio show can't

1898
01:23:20,310 --> 01:23:13,030
remember my memories not to grace maybe

1899
01:23:23,189 --> 01:23:20,320
it's too much CBD but in case a radio

1900
01:23:26,669 --> 01:23:23,199
show that when I was getting physical

1901
01:23:28,870 --> 01:23:26,679
therapy after my surgery this past was

1902
01:23:34,209 --> 01:23:28,880
maybe January 2

1903
01:23:36,370 --> 01:23:34,219
was a female c-130 pilot who was she had

1904
01:23:40,300 --> 01:23:36,380
I think some kind of issue with her

1905
01:23:43,930 --> 01:23:40,310
ankle and she was overhearing me my

1906
01:23:46,930 --> 01:23:43,940
therapist talked about the whole a tip

1907
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:46,940
program and he was asking me a few

1908
01:23:51,310 --> 01:23:48,710
different questions and then talking

1909
01:23:54,970 --> 01:23:51,320
about the the video of the tic-tac and

1910
01:23:58,290 --> 01:23:54,980
she chimed in which she said she would

1911
01:24:01,320 --> 01:23:58,300
have never done before she had a a

1912
01:24:04,959 --> 01:24:01,330
sighting when she was flying in Alaska

1913
01:24:07,660 --> 01:24:04,969
where a UFO UAP whatever you want to

1914
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:07,670
call it came alongside the c-130 and

1915
01:24:13,990 --> 01:24:10,489
flew on for about ten minutes and to

1916
01:24:15,370 --> 01:24:14,000
just slowly drift it away and her and

1917
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:15,380
her copilot and the crewmembers

1918
01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:17,360
basically said we're not gonna talk

1919
01:24:21,459 --> 01:24:18,830
about this because if we get to base

1920
01:24:23,500 --> 01:24:21,469
back to base the Anchorage they're gonna

1921
01:24:25,030 --> 01:24:23,510
grill us on it so we're just gonna shut

1922
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:25,040
up and she said to me

1923
01:24:30,970 --> 01:24:27,530
the older reason why she told me this

1924
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:30,980
story is because of the fact that the

1925
01:24:37,780 --> 01:24:34,010
December 16th news articles came out and

1926
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:37,790
it was being played on the TV so I don't

1927
01:24:43,030 --> 01:24:40,370
buy that nobody cared about December

1928
01:24:46,990 --> 01:24:43,040
16th I disagree I see it all the time

1929
01:24:49,689 --> 01:24:47,000
but I have mixed feelings on it did

1930
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:49,699
great and it made a historic impact I

1931
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:51,770
mean the videos have only been released

1932
01:24:54,879 --> 01:24:53,090
it hasn't even been a year

1933
01:24:56,979 --> 01:24:54,889
what an amazing year has been can you

1934
01:24:59,590 --> 01:24:56,989
get I mean it's just crazy think back to

1935
01:25:01,360 --> 01:24:59,600
one year from now and we're totally

1936
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:01,370
amazing at the same time you asked

1937
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:03,290
normal people on the street and most of

1938
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:09,290
them have heard about it haven't gotten

1939
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:10,489
to where they need to go yet but like

1940
01:25:15,490 --> 01:25:12,610
it's been set in motion

1941
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:15,500
yeah but Danny's right Danny's right

1942
01:25:18,820 --> 01:25:17,690
that means you know the us the average

1943
01:25:20,470 --> 01:25:18,830
person on the street they're not gonna

1944
01:25:23,020 --> 01:25:20,480
know but I think that what to the Stars

1945
01:25:25,689 --> 01:25:23,030
Academy in December 16th in October 11th

1946
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:25,699
accomplished is it set in motion that

1947
01:25:29,740 --> 01:25:28,250
had a period of time not too far into

1948
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:29,750
the future they will know about it and

1949
01:25:36,790 --> 01:25:31,370
maybe it will be the beginning of 2019

1950
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:36,800
yeah maybe well I'm getting to kind of

1951
01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:38,480
Frank's point you know there's kind of

1952
01:25:42,850 --> 01:25:40,760
like a middle ground you know maybe that

1953
01:25:47,410 --> 01:25:42,860
you know what even what

1954
01:25:49,540 --> 01:25:47,420
Ryan would dub the TTS a effect with the

1955
01:25:51,340 --> 01:25:49,550
release of all this stuff in the New

1956
01:25:53,020 --> 01:25:51,350
York Times article this is actually

1957
01:25:55,149 --> 01:25:53,030
creating that nonchalant attitude

1958
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:55,159
amongst the public more so and maybe

1959
01:25:59,140 --> 01:25:57,199
that's what they want you know they want

1960
01:26:02,830 --> 01:25:59,150
people to be able to take look at the

1961
01:26:04,450 --> 01:26:02,840
information accept it and move on right

1962
01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:04,460
yeah there's no question it's a real

1963
01:26:09,669 --> 01:26:07,310
thing because before last year this

1964
01:26:12,310 --> 01:26:09,679
subject really did not get a whole lot

1965
01:26:14,590 --> 01:26:12,320
of a big-time media attention it just

1966
01:26:16,330 --> 01:26:14,600
didn't so the fact that it's getting

1967
01:26:18,580 --> 01:26:16,340
some yeah it's a drop in the bucket

1968
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:18,590
compared to what all they put out you

1969
01:26:22,810 --> 01:26:21,290
know in this 24/7 cycle that were in so

1970
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:22,820
they're putting out just reams of

1971
01:26:27,820 --> 01:26:25,730
information that endless stories about

1972
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:27,830
all sorts of things so this is a drop in

1973
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:29,810
the bucket but at the same time they're

1974
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:31,489
at least dropping something into the

1975
01:26:41,020 --> 01:26:38,810
body which is good I'm just saying dumb

1976
01:26:42,910 --> 01:26:41,030
stuff but it's just so crazy that it

1977
01:26:45,129 --> 01:26:42,920
hasn't even been a year sometimes I just

1978
01:26:47,129 --> 01:26:45,139
had to sit back and just amaze that to

1979
01:26:51,129 --> 01:26:47,139
me hasn't been a year yes

1980
01:26:54,250 --> 01:26:51,139
the fact that the government came out

1981
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:54,260
December 16th of 2017 and acknowledged

1982
01:26:59,580 --> 01:26:56,690
that they had a secret program known as

1983
01:27:03,790 --> 01:26:59,590
a tip it's huge because prior to that

1984
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:03,800
they said in 69 we're done with UFOs we

1985
01:27:08,470 --> 01:27:06,170
don't we didn't have anything to deal

1986
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:08,480
with them and now we well we know from

1987
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:11,090
Paul Dean's work that through the 70s

1988
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:13,520
80s and even to the early 90s they were

1989
01:27:19,990 --> 01:27:16,250
very much knowing about the subject

1990
01:27:21,580 --> 01:27:20,000
that's a complete lie so it's it's a I

1991
01:27:25,740 --> 01:27:21,590
don't know how I want to describe this

1992
01:27:29,379 --> 01:27:25,750
but like they're in a conundrum where

1993
01:27:31,330 --> 01:27:29,389
yeah they want to tell the public as I

1994
01:27:33,609 --> 01:27:31,340
do agree with the grant Cameron they

1995
01:27:35,830 --> 01:27:33,619
pain themselves into the corner and they

1996
01:27:38,919 --> 01:27:35,840
want to definitely get out of that

1997
01:27:43,020 --> 01:27:38,929
corner by any means necessary at the

1998
01:27:48,910 --> 01:27:43,030
same time I don't know where I'm going

1999
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:48,920
i I by Stephen Bassets hypothesis that

2000
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:52,010
when Podesta and Hillary Clinton were

2001
01:27:55,920 --> 01:27:54,800
yapping their gums about UAP in a very

2002
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:55,930
public manner

2003
01:27:59,850 --> 01:27:57,730
people inside the Pentagon were getting

2004
01:28:03,390 --> 01:27:59,860
concerned about that and in the stars

2005
01:28:06,570 --> 01:28:03,400
aligned and DeLonge while this was

2006
01:28:09,060 --> 01:28:06,580
exploring was also trying to get in

2007
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:09,070
touch with people high-level officials

2008
01:28:13,380 --> 01:28:10,930
to create greater transparency on the

2009
01:28:15,210 --> 01:28:13,390
subject tonight and I yeah I mean maybe

2010
01:28:16,860 --> 01:28:15,220
maybe fast it's wrong but I kind of I

2011
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:16,870
feel he if you've watched any of his

2012
01:28:21,050 --> 01:28:18,610
presentations he makes a very persuasive

2013
01:28:25,230 --> 01:28:21,060
case that Podesta and Hillary Clinton

2014
01:28:28,290 --> 01:28:25,240
talking about the UAP subject for a full

2015
01:28:30,570 --> 01:28:28,300
two years up until the election got

2016
01:28:32,370 --> 01:28:30,580
people within inside the pentagon scared

2017
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:32,380
and they wanted to get ahead of the

2018
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:34,450
issue the expectation being that she was

2019
01:28:38,970 --> 01:28:37,510
gonna get elected she was gonna continue

2020
01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:38,980
talking about it and not only would she

2021
01:28:42,450 --> 01:28:40,510
continue talking about it but all you

2022
01:28:44,670 --> 01:28:42,460
need is like clips from when she talked

2023
01:28:46,830 --> 01:28:44,680
about it before so now she's President

2024
01:28:49,260 --> 01:28:46,840
Clinton and people are like bringing

2025
01:28:51,180 --> 01:28:49,270
forth clips of her talking about UFOs

2026
01:28:52,650 --> 01:28:51,190
and then it's you know it would just

2027
01:28:55,410 --> 01:28:52,660
become more more in the public sphere

2028
01:28:59,070 --> 01:28:55,420
than ever before I will say Ryan

2029
01:29:03,150 --> 01:28:59,080
something shifted right as Barack Obama

2030
01:29:06,740 --> 01:29:03,160
left office and then Trump it became the

2031
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:06,750
president think back before the the

2032
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:09,810
October 11th to the Stars Academy

2033
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:12,250
announcement the biggest data dump of

2034
01:29:17,310 --> 01:29:14,650
UFOs even thought wasn't solely on UFOs

2035
01:29:19,860 --> 01:29:17,320
stuff was the fact that the CIA released

2036
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:19,870
a ton of documents about remote viewing

2037
01:29:27,270 --> 01:29:23,290
and there was UFO stuff in there about

2038
01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:27,280
like the Tehran case with the DIA and I

2039
01:29:32,190 --> 01:29:29,260
can't remember there was a bunch of but

2040
01:29:34,170 --> 01:29:32,200
they Barack Obama released all that

2041
01:29:36,780 --> 01:29:34,180
right before he left office which is

2042
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:36,790
really strange I don't know if people

2043
01:29:43,290 --> 01:29:39,850
remember that yeah I don't the only one

2044
01:29:45,090 --> 01:29:43,300
here that right before he left he had a

2045
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:45,100
bunch of things be classified as losing

2046
01:29:53,010 --> 01:29:50,490
office so there was obviously some

2047
01:29:56,190 --> 01:29:53,020
greasing of the wheels for this to

2048
01:29:58,380 --> 01:29:56,200
happen I agree he was on the Jimmy

2049
01:30:00,960 --> 01:29:58,390
Kimmel show and he was making those some

2050
01:30:02,820 --> 01:30:00,970
strange comments of course he was asked

2051
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:02,830
he knew he was gonna be asked and then

2052
01:30:07,610 --> 01:30:04,210
he was on the other show when he's

2053
01:30:09,780 --> 01:30:07,620
talking a little girl about aliens and

2054
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:09,790
you know and he mentioned area

2055
01:30:18,570 --> 01:30:13,210
51 yeah you know the first ever time a

2056
01:30:20,940 --> 01:30:18,580
president acknowledged area 51 so I go

2057
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:20,950
back to also Tom DeLonge interview where

2058
01:30:27,810 --> 01:30:23,710
he said for some reason the green light

2059
01:30:30,510 --> 01:30:27,820
has been lit and I don't know and again

2060
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:30,520
I don't know I would love to know some

2061
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:32,890
insiders he was talking to before the

2062
01:30:39,930 --> 01:30:35,650
Christian islands and the blue sandals

2063
01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:39,940
of the world I mean we know twice I know

2064
01:30:53,250 --> 01:30:42,310
but we know Weiss but we don't know all

2065
01:30:55,590 --> 01:30:53,260
the other ones well we don't as 'land

2066
01:30:58,170 --> 01:30:55,600
and we know that other guy I can't think

2067
01:31:00,120 --> 01:30:58,180
of his name did general I can't remember

2068
01:31:03,150 --> 01:31:00,130
his name Kerry I think Kerry was dollar

2069
01:31:05,970 --> 01:31:03,160
gentleman but uh yeah I don't know

2070
01:31:08,850 --> 01:31:05,980
there's some kind of motion that they

2071
01:31:10,950 --> 01:31:08,860
want this topic out there for whatever

2072
01:31:12,990 --> 01:31:10,960
reason I don't know there has to be a

2073
01:31:14,580 --> 01:31:13,000
trigger I mean this this is this is 70

2074
01:31:16,860 --> 01:31:14,590
years in the making they didn't the

2075
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:16,870
people who who are actually have

2076
01:31:21,540 --> 01:31:20,290
leverage and that who facilitated the

2077
01:31:22,590 --> 01:31:21,550
videos getting released I mean they

2078
01:31:24,540 --> 01:31:22,600
didn't just wake up one day you know

2079
01:31:25,980 --> 01:31:24,550
what let's do this I mean there was

2080
01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:25,990
something that triggered them I mean I

2081
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:28,210
hate to say it but I think if people in

2082
01:31:32,010 --> 01:31:30,250
the Pentagon who were in charge of the

2083
01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:32,020
secret thought they could maintain it

2084
01:31:39,210 --> 01:31:32,410
forever

2085
01:31:45,950 --> 01:31:39,220
knows the Internet's fault

2086
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:45,960
I really do I really think I think I

2087
01:31:51,450 --> 01:31:48,610
mean do they wanna wait to another Gary

2088
01:31:54,060 --> 01:31:51,460
McKinnon happens seriously yeah do them

2089
01:31:56,820 --> 01:31:54,070
the Internet has a big role in it but

2090
01:31:59,550 --> 01:31:56,830
you know there's there's probably events

2091
01:32:01,860 --> 01:31:59,560
or things that had transpired behind the

2092
01:32:03,450 --> 01:32:01,870
scenes in the intelligence community

2093
01:32:05,910 --> 01:32:03,460
that we don't know about that they said

2094
01:32:07,530 --> 01:32:05,920
listen yeah you know we better start

2095
01:32:08,820 --> 01:32:07,540
this process now because like Ryan said

2096
01:32:13,710 --> 01:32:08,830
it's not like they just woke up and said

2097
01:32:16,020 --> 01:32:13,720
hey Johnny you know what well I'm great

2098
01:32:18,660 --> 01:32:16,030
is a great Cameron is of the opinion

2099
01:32:20,580 --> 01:32:18,670
that it's a number of these folks who

2100
01:32:21,989 --> 01:32:20,590
were involved in this effort to get this

2101
01:32:24,739 --> 01:32:21,999
information out from the

2102
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:24,749
are themselves experiencers and

2103
01:32:31,979 --> 01:32:28,449
therefore that's their motivation yeah

2104
01:32:35,399 --> 01:32:31,989
yeah but grant Cameron is also saying

2105
01:32:37,950 --> 01:32:35,409
that you know this has been a long-term

2106
01:32:39,419 --> 01:32:37,960
process that's been going on and you

2107
01:32:41,310 --> 01:32:39,429
know this is we just happen to be in the

2108
01:32:43,529 --> 01:32:41,320
next phase of it you know he said this

2109
01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:43,539
is going back to ham and Egger and even

2110
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:45,550
before that we're there dripping out

2111
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:48,010
this data and every time they you know

2112
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:50,050
it's a it's like another phase or wait

2113
01:32:56,580 --> 01:32:54,130
I would agree I mean he his point to

2114
01:32:58,830 --> 01:32:56,590
other governments to shutting up and not

2115
01:33:01,169 --> 01:32:58,840
talking about it is correct

2116
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:01,179
whereas US government they dilly-dally

2117
01:33:06,419 --> 01:33:03,489
and they'll say one thing and do another

2118
01:33:08,939 --> 01:33:06,429
it's really weird like we have like it

2119
01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:08,949
schizophrenic US government like there's

2120
01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:13,090
a religious side these are deeming so we

2121
01:33:17,790 --> 01:33:15,070
can't have anything to do with them they

2122
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:17,800
decide that no we need this information

2123
01:33:23,339 --> 01:33:20,050
release because you know we've been

2124
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:23,349
hiding it for how long and then I would

2125
01:33:27,209 --> 01:33:25,090
think there's even a third arm that is

2126
01:33:31,979 --> 01:33:27,219
worried that there's gonna be blowback

2127
01:33:33,899 --> 01:33:31,989
ie indictments and getting sued and you

2128
01:33:38,370 --> 01:33:33,909
know I don't know it's got to be a mess

2129
01:33:39,660 --> 01:33:38,380
for people there's the fourth the group

2130
01:33:41,759 --> 01:33:39,670
that I've been hypothesizing about

2131
01:33:43,410 --> 01:33:41,769
thanks to you Chris when you're talking

2132
01:33:44,969 --> 01:33:43,420
about that cons elite stuff and I may be

2133
01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:44,979
totally off base on this I'm just trying

2134
01:33:48,899 --> 01:33:47,710
to digest it in my own mind but um and

2135
01:33:51,149 --> 01:33:48,909
maybe there's another group that have

2136
01:33:52,799 --> 01:33:51,159
tried a bunch of this stuff and they've

2137
01:33:54,060 --> 01:33:52,809
had really really bad experiences and

2138
01:33:55,830 --> 01:33:54,070
now they decided that they don't want to

2139
01:33:59,549 --> 01:33:55,840
do it I mean that's an indication that

2140
01:34:01,589 --> 01:33:59,559
I've seen that some people within the

2141
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:01,599
government have experimented with this

2142
01:34:07,259 --> 01:34:04,690
weaponized it to your degree and they've

2143
01:34:09,029 --> 01:34:07,269
got a bad result some people die and

2144
01:34:12,660 --> 01:34:09,039
then they say we don't want to mess with

2145
01:34:14,540 --> 01:34:12,670
it but again like grant Cameron says

2146
01:34:16,950 --> 01:34:14,550
always there's no there's no there there

2147
01:34:21,089 --> 01:34:16,960
you don't know what you're doing with

2148
01:34:22,620 --> 01:34:21,099
truly I know I know Ryan he may take

2149
01:34:26,009 --> 01:34:22,630
offense just a little bit night I'm

2150
01:34:28,890 --> 01:34:26,019
sorry UFO Jesus but no no I had that's a

2151
01:34:31,049 --> 01:34:28,900
misinterpretation I I've always

2152
01:34:33,509 --> 01:34:31,059
maintained that the phenomena is

2153
01:34:35,550 --> 01:34:33,519
probably multifaceted that it that it

2154
01:34:37,170 --> 01:34:35,560
encompasses physical

2155
01:34:39,890 --> 01:34:37,180
extraterrestrials and it probably

2156
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:39,900
encompasses interdimensional

2157
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:42,010
materializations and maybe even

2158
01:34:47,250 --> 01:34:44,890
something more exotic so my yeah I

2159
01:34:48,900 --> 01:34:47,260
believe it's it's multifaceted but I've

2160
01:34:52,020 --> 01:34:48,910
never given I've never said that it's

2161
01:34:54,780 --> 01:34:52,030
entirely extraterrestrial all right some

2162
01:34:57,270 --> 01:34:54,790
people some of our detractors pin you as

2163
01:34:57,900 --> 01:34:57,280
the ETH guy I don't know I don't know

2164
01:35:06,030 --> 01:34:57,910
where they're getting their information

2165
01:35:08,310 --> 01:35:06,040
from but that's what my point was they

2166
01:35:09,750 --> 01:35:08,320
mess with this stuff they got a bad

2167
01:35:12,090 --> 01:35:09,760
result and then they're like you know

2168
01:35:13,710 --> 01:35:12,100
what we're gonna seal this off we don't

2169
01:35:16,860 --> 01:35:13,720
want people messing with it

2170
01:35:18,930 --> 01:35:16,870
ie skinwalker ranch I do feel that

2171
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:18,940
there's been occurrences there where

2172
01:35:24,450 --> 01:35:22,690
people have been affected negatively but

2173
01:35:25,980 --> 01:35:24,460
what's when I come back to you is

2174
01:35:28,470 --> 01:35:25,990
there's all these people like Chris

2175
01:35:31,110 --> 01:35:28,480
Bledsoe who is experienced here this

2176
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:31,120
phenomenon and who is dealt with to the

2177
01:35:35,700 --> 01:35:33,610
Stars before they were two stars and he

2178
01:35:38,430 --> 01:35:35,710
says this is love and light and this is

2179
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:38,440
a good thing I I don't know I mean in my

2180
01:35:43,500 --> 01:35:41,050
own experience my own very personal

2181
01:35:46,620 --> 01:35:43,510
experience it wasn't good and it wasn't

2182
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:46,630
bad so I can't sit there and say so I

2183
01:35:52,650 --> 01:35:50,650
don't know well Chris I have a doubt go

2184
01:35:55,050 --> 01:35:52,660
ahead sorry about that right what I'm

2185
01:35:57,540 --> 01:35:55,060
wondering about is you know Knapp has

2186
01:36:00,120 --> 01:35:57,550
put forth in a recent interview on

2187
01:36:01,380 --> 01:36:00,130
phenomenon radio that or he suggested

2188
01:36:05,490 --> 01:36:01,390
that maybe the Chinese and the Russians

2189
01:36:07,440 --> 01:36:05,500
are further ahead in the ability to

2190
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:07,450
understand the technology that UAP

2191
01:36:14,820 --> 01:36:12,250
encompass and he chimed in that he has

2192
01:36:18,620 --> 01:36:14,830
reason to believe or he speculates that

2193
01:36:21,930 --> 01:36:18,630
the the Russians have become emboldened

2194
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:21,940
when they fly their aircraft in the air

2195
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:23,530
our carriers and so forth because they

2196
01:36:28,770 --> 01:36:26,410
as a consequence of having made

2197
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:28,780
technological leaps based on their study

2198
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:31,090
of UAP technology you know and I'm

2199
01:36:36,930 --> 01:36:34,570
thinking it's at first I thought no

2200
01:36:38,490 --> 01:36:36,940
there's no way the the military the

2201
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:38,500
amount of money the United States spends

2202
01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:40,810
on military is huge and it's way bigger

2203
01:36:44,730 --> 01:36:42,790
than any other country and it's it's

2204
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:44,740
astronomical so how could it possibly be

2205
01:36:48,420 --> 01:36:47,110
that other nations are further ahead but

2206
01:36:50,610 --> 01:36:48,430
then you but then when you

2207
01:36:52,830 --> 01:36:50,620
I try and look at what Bob Lazar says

2208
01:36:53,370 --> 01:36:52,840
about s4 when in when he was working

2209
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:53,380
there

2210
01:36:59,310 --> 01:36:56,530
he claims now I'm kind of 50/50 Bob

2211
01:37:00,510 --> 01:36:59,320
Lazar at this point although I'm I got

2212
01:37:02,850 --> 01:37:00,520
to think about it more but he claims

2213
01:37:06,570 --> 01:37:02,860
that when he was working at s4 there was

2214
01:37:09,090 --> 01:37:06,580
only 22 human beings working on the

2215
01:37:11,010 --> 01:37:09,100
flying saucers they had there now I

2216
01:37:13,650 --> 01:37:11,020
don't care how much your military budget

2217
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:13,660
is if you only have 22 people working on

2218
01:37:17,250 --> 01:37:16,030
flying saucers then yeah that alone

2219
01:37:18,750 --> 01:37:17,260
makes me think yeah maybe the Russians

2220
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:18,760
and the Chinese are further ahead than

2221
01:37:22,710 --> 01:37:20,650
us because I bet you if they have flying

2222
01:37:23,970 --> 01:37:22,720
saucers they got way more than 22 people

2223
01:37:26,670 --> 01:37:23,980
working on it but the United States is

2224
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:26,680
so obsessed with secrecy and China and

2225
01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:27,850
Russia are probably had it's easier for

2226
01:37:30,990 --> 01:37:29,350
them to maintain secrecy because they

2227
01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:31,000
it's more of a they have more of a

2228
01:37:34,650 --> 01:37:32,800
control structure so when you really

2229
01:37:37,470 --> 01:37:34,660
look at when you really look at the

2230
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:37,480
entire picture I'm I think it's quite

2231
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:38,890
possible that the Chinese and the

2232
01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:41,170
Russians have more understanding of the

2233
01:37:44,700 --> 01:37:42,790
phenomena and when you consider how much

2234
01:37:46,410 --> 01:37:44,710
we pay on millet for military budget I

2235
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:46,420
think that's kind of it's disturbing and

2236
01:37:49,590 --> 01:37:47,530
that's all I got to say about that I'm

2237
01:37:51,870 --> 01:37:49,600
trying to add to your point with Bob

2238
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:51,880
Lazar he said most of those 22 people

2239
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:55,330
were military not scientific capacity so

2240
01:38:00,510 --> 01:37:58,960
that is scary that means like they

2241
01:38:05,430 --> 01:38:00,520
literally have a gun to your head and

2242
01:38:09,570 --> 01:38:05,440
they're telling you figure it out this

2243
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:09,580
is like we can't do this and I mean I

2244
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:12,970
know there's a YouTube video where he

2245
01:38:18,660 --> 01:38:15,730
describes with Nampa a UFO conference in

2246
01:38:21,330 --> 01:38:18,670
like 2015 or 2014 when Bob Lazar came at

2247
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:21,340
the last time and he talks about how he

2248
01:38:25,410 --> 01:38:23,410
and his coworker it was the only one

2249
01:38:27,780 --> 01:38:25,420
other guy working on propulsion because

2250
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:27,790
the guy before Bob Lazar showed up blew

2251
01:38:33,540 --> 01:38:31,930
up and died you know the one of the

2252
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:33,550
experiments they tried is they turned

2253
01:38:37,710 --> 01:38:35,170
one and they grabbed the amplifiers on

2254
01:38:40,560 --> 01:38:37,720
and they bounced the golf ball off of it

2255
01:38:44,190 --> 01:38:40,570
and it hit the ceiling tile and their

2256
01:38:47,030 --> 01:38:44,200
their their superior darkness and not

2257
01:38:51,930 --> 01:38:47,040
Dennis what's his name wasn't darkness

2258
01:38:53,910 --> 01:38:51,940
yeah Dennis came in so what the hell you

2259
01:38:55,500 --> 01:38:53,920
two doing and basically didn't bother

2260
01:38:57,930 --> 01:38:55,510
looking up but there's a golf ball

2261
01:38:58,650 --> 01:38:57,940
sticking in the ceiling I mean that's

2262
01:39:01,739 --> 01:38:58,660
crazy

2263
01:39:03,929 --> 01:39:01,749
and we if you if you do

2264
01:39:06,119 --> 01:39:03,939
research on the US government and how

2265
01:39:08,759 --> 01:39:06,129
much money they've spent a blank check

2266
01:39:10,949 --> 01:39:08,769
is a great book to look at that looks

2267
01:39:13,529 --> 01:39:10,959
crazy in that dating talk about like

2268
01:39:15,659 --> 01:39:13,539
super secret programs they just talked

2269
01:39:18,419 --> 01:39:15,669
they focused on the b-2 stealth bomber

2270
01:39:22,409 --> 01:39:18,429
and how much money was allocated for

2271
01:39:25,139 --> 01:39:22,419
that so no I agree Ryan that it's scary

2272
01:39:27,839 --> 01:39:25,149
to think that we've lost the arms race

2273
01:39:31,859 --> 01:39:27,849
to China and Russia in the further that

2274
01:39:33,299 --> 01:39:31,869
point they set operatives am i hearing

2275
01:39:37,499 --> 01:39:33,309
this right they sent operatives just

2276
01:39:40,799 --> 01:39:37,509
gonna walk a ranch spies to spy on us

2277
01:39:43,499 --> 01:39:40,809
I mean it you know who else had that

2278
01:39:44,099 --> 01:39:43,509
happen to was the Bentwaters incident in

2279
01:39:46,349 --> 01:39:44,109
1980

2280
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:46,359
afterwards they a word of Russian

2281
01:39:50,399 --> 01:39:48,489
intrusion well it's interesting you

2282
01:39:52,169 --> 01:39:50,409
bring that up Chris because one of the

2283
01:39:55,079 --> 01:39:52,179
topics are we've got on the agenda today

2284
01:39:59,369 --> 01:39:55,089
is a connection between these skinwalker

2285
01:40:01,649 --> 01:39:59,379
ranch and the Rendlesham area these are

2286
01:40:03,809 --> 01:40:01,659
areas that have a lot of paranormal

2287
01:40:07,409 --> 01:40:03,819
activity that may or may not be related

2288
01:40:09,509 --> 01:40:07,419
to UFOs and this is an interesting topic

2289
01:40:11,519 --> 01:40:09,519
and we do want to get into it I know

2290
01:40:15,959 --> 01:40:11,529
Ryan some time back I was chattering

2291
01:40:18,449 --> 01:40:15,969
with you and I'm just as a theory just

2292
01:40:20,339 --> 01:40:18,459
sort of a throwing us stuff against the

2293
01:40:22,139 --> 01:40:20,349
wall I'm seeing what's this I was

2294
01:40:25,079 --> 01:40:22,149
wondering about the possibility that

2295
01:40:28,319 --> 01:40:25,089
there could be these anomalous hotspots

2296
01:40:30,059 --> 01:40:28,329
on earth that these ETS can detect and

2297
01:40:31,829 --> 01:40:30,069
they just go and check them out and

2298
01:40:34,109 --> 01:40:31,839
research them in just the way we might

2299
01:40:37,469 --> 01:40:34,119
want to that that's the reason you see

2300
01:40:39,779 --> 01:40:37,479
UFO activity and these paranormal

2301
01:40:42,659 --> 01:40:39,789
hotspots seem to come together so I

2302
01:40:44,369 --> 01:40:42,669
let's say let's go into this let's go

2303
01:40:46,559 --> 01:40:44,379
into this connection between Rendlesham

2304
01:40:48,949 --> 01:40:46,569
and skinwalker anyone have any thoughts

2305
01:40:55,799 --> 01:40:48,959
on the matter

2306
01:40:58,649 --> 01:40:55,809
they're both someplace I'll go ahead of

2307
01:41:01,889 --> 01:40:58,659
a sideline this is a quick no and then

2308
01:41:03,299 --> 01:41:01,899
go chris is that if you get into like

2309
01:41:05,969 --> 01:41:03,309
the ronald material and some of the

2310
01:41:07,949 --> 01:41:05,979
stuff can't grant cameron has been

2311
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:07,959
highlighting but you know the rama group

2312
01:41:14,069 --> 01:41:11,199
has been around since the 1970s doing

2313
01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:14,079
you know going to these hotspots in

2314
01:41:18,750 --> 01:41:15,600
South America and having

2315
01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:18,760
you know these programmed sightings or

2316
01:41:22,830 --> 01:41:20,560
contact events which even the mainstream

2317
01:41:25,860 --> 01:41:22,840
media in South America had recorded and

2318
01:41:30,270 --> 01:41:25,870
reported on you know they say that

2319
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:30,280
there's these places that they they're

2320
01:41:35,370 --> 01:41:31,330
natural

2321
01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:35,380
portals or Zend rows and where the you

2322
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:37,450
know exactly what Jeremy Korbel and

2323
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:39,370
others had said where you know it's like

2324
01:41:44,550 --> 01:41:42,250
a thin layer of reality where these

2325
01:41:48,330 --> 01:41:44,560
these different dimensions can can kind

2326
01:41:50,430 --> 01:41:48,340
of connect but you know I largely you

2327
01:41:52,890 --> 01:41:50,440
know they also say that the being the

2328
01:41:56,100 --> 01:41:52,900
beings or the you know the others can

2329
01:41:58,140 --> 01:41:56,110
create synthetic portals but that

2330
01:41:59,880 --> 01:41:58,150
there's natural you know places on earth

2331
01:42:04,020 --> 01:41:59,890
that have to do with the geomagnetic

2332
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:04,030
field like Sedona Arizona and these

2333
01:42:10,950 --> 01:42:07,570
other places like skinwalker where and

2334
01:42:14,130 --> 01:42:10,960
and at some places in New Mexico where

2335
01:42:16,350 --> 01:42:14,140
the you know I guess the dimensional

2336
01:42:20,070 --> 01:42:16,360
layers are thin and these things are

2337
01:42:21,420 --> 01:42:20,080
more likely to happen in those areas I

2338
01:42:24,330 --> 01:42:21,430
was gonna add real quick

2339
01:42:26,790 --> 01:42:24,340
it is a thinning of the layer of reality

2340
01:42:30,450 --> 01:42:26,800
there and I would also argue that the

2341
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:30,460
four corners Colorado Utah New Mexico

2342
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:33,310
because Chris O'Brien

2343
01:42:37,650 --> 01:42:35,650
Christopher O'Brien mentions that on

2344
01:42:40,470 --> 01:42:37,660
some of his expeditions to just seeing

2345
01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:40,480
louise valley he's encountered with

2346
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:43,600
rosemary ellen guiley these areas were

2347
01:42:49,050 --> 01:42:46,810
these the realities thinner for some

2348
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:49,060
reason I don't know it's very

2349
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:51,610
interesting that what does that mean

2350
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:53,410
critter reality is thinner and you

2351
01:43:02,430 --> 01:42:54,850
explain that a little bit better if you

2352
01:43:05,310 --> 01:43:02,440
can well means is the the veil that

2353
01:43:07,470 --> 01:43:05,320
separates us our realm from there around

2354
01:43:08,940 --> 01:43:07,480
thins and so they can sort of interface

2355
01:43:10,740 --> 01:43:08,950
with our realm more easily

2356
01:43:13,020 --> 01:43:10,750
yeah well one thing I find really

2357
01:43:17,220 --> 01:43:13,030
fascinating about when you when you

2358
01:43:19,770 --> 01:43:17,230
examine the UAP phenomena and you

2359
01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:19,780
examine the seemingly interdimensional

2360
01:43:23,070 --> 01:43:21,310
phenomena there's a there's a distinct

2361
01:43:25,110 --> 01:43:23,080
commonality that you notice right away

2362
01:43:27,810 --> 01:43:25,120
and that is with both the

2363
01:43:29,370 --> 01:43:27,820
interdimensional and the UAP phenomena

2364
01:43:32,430 --> 01:43:29,380
they hold back

2365
01:43:35,540 --> 01:43:32,440
in other words the UAP phenomena like

2366
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:35,550
flying a huge triangle could fly over

2367
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:38,320
Washington DC at any given time and

2368
01:43:41,250 --> 01:43:40,000
disclosures done you could say the same

2369
01:43:43,290 --> 01:43:41,260
thing about the interdimensional

2370
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:43,300
phenomenon when when bass and knids was

2371
01:43:47,939 --> 01:43:46,449
out in skinwalker ranch the the the

2372
01:43:50,070 --> 01:43:47,949
interdimensional phenomena did reveal

2373
01:43:51,570 --> 01:43:50,080
itself but it did so in a way where they

2374
01:43:54,990 --> 01:43:51,580
couldn't really prove anything

2375
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:55,000
and one of my fun little pet theories is

2376
01:44:00,060 --> 01:43:57,610
that as we get closer to disclosure and

2377
01:44:01,890 --> 01:44:00,070
as we go beyond disclosure maybe maybe

2378
01:44:04,229 --> 01:44:01,900
the rules will change a little bit and

2379
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:04,239
the whatever's behind the UAP and

2380
01:44:07,740 --> 01:44:05,650
whatever's behind the interdimensional

2381
01:44:11,310 --> 01:44:07,750
phenomena will begin to reveal itself in

2382
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:11,320
a more intimate way because humankind at

2383
01:44:13,919 --> 01:44:12,850
that stage will be ready for it if

2384
01:44:15,390 --> 01:44:13,929
that's the case that would be pretty

2385
01:44:17,669 --> 01:44:15,400
cool that's all I got to say all right I

2386
01:44:19,169 --> 01:44:17,679
have my own little theory on that and

2387
01:44:21,570 --> 01:44:19,179
again this is just my own series from

2388
01:44:23,310 --> 01:44:21,580
experiences and observations is that I

2389
01:44:26,370 --> 01:44:23,320
do think that the interdimensional

2390
01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:26,380
phenomena you know if we're gonna

2391
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:28,030
categorize this right and we're gonna

2392
01:44:33,629 --> 01:44:31,690
say you know some of it is possibly you

2393
01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:33,639
know extraterrestrial biological or

2394
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:35,650
extraterrestrial in the way that we

2395
01:44:40,770 --> 01:44:38,159
think of in some of its interdimensional

2396
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:40,780
I'm you know my feeling honor is that

2397
01:44:46,310 --> 01:44:43,090
the the interdimensional aspect is more

2398
01:44:48,899 --> 01:44:46,320
limited in on reality and that the

2399
01:44:51,450 --> 01:44:48,909
advanced technological you know

2400
01:44:54,510 --> 01:44:51,460
seemingly extraterrestrial Europe II UAP

2401
01:44:58,410 --> 01:44:54,520
phenomena has more mobility to interact

2402
01:45:05,390 --> 01:44:58,420
with our or a reality in a physical way

2403
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:05,400
you know I had quite recently I've

2404
01:45:10,979 --> 01:45:08,560
talked about communication with some of

2405
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:10,989
these different interdimensional groups

2406
01:45:14,250 --> 01:45:13,090
that you know there's scientific papers

2407
01:45:17,430 --> 01:45:14,260
talking about different ways of

2408
01:45:20,010 --> 01:45:17,440
interfacing with them even texts

2409
01:45:22,169 --> 01:45:20,020
international so help put offs company

2410
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:22,179
he's got a scientist that works for him

2411
01:45:25,709 --> 01:45:24,400
a guy called Michael ibises or something

2412
01:45:28,410 --> 01:45:25,719
like that I can't remember his exact

2413
01:45:29,910 --> 01:45:28,420
name he he's released a scientific paper

2414
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:29,920
that is talking about quantum

2415
01:45:34,470 --> 01:45:32,010
entanglement as a way of communicating

2416
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:34,480
with some he mentions it as

2417
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:36,610
extraterrestrial but who knows what it

2418
01:45:41,610 --> 01:45:38,530
could really be it seems like there's

2419
01:45:43,410 --> 01:45:41,620
some kind of way of communicating with

2420
01:45:45,620 --> 01:45:43,420
these things and I think if it's if we

2421
01:45:49,140 --> 01:45:45,630
talking about the non extra-terrestrial

2422
01:45:50,430 --> 01:45:49,150
hypothesis hypothesis then we you know

2423
01:45:52,110 --> 01:45:50,440
we might be looking at something else

2424
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:52,120
you know there might be a few elements

2425
01:45:54,840 --> 01:45:53,770
to it I think that probably is I think

2426
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:54,850
we're probably looking at something

2427
01:46:00,720 --> 01:45:57,010
that's interdimensional and something

2428
01:46:01,919 --> 01:46:00,730
that's et but if from what I can tell

2429
01:46:04,580 --> 01:46:01,929
from looking through all the scientific

2430
01:46:08,010 --> 01:46:04,590
papers we've got lots more information

2431
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:08,020
actually on the crypto terrestrials or

2432
01:46:11,220 --> 01:46:10,239
ultra terrestrials since we've got loads

2433
01:46:12,419 --> 01:46:11,230
and loads of different papers on it

2434
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:12,429
loads of different scientists have

2435
01:46:15,630 --> 01:46:13,449
picked up this stuff and talked about

2436
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:15,640
how we can sort of communicate or how

2437
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:17,770
certain elements of our brain these kind

2438
01:46:22,140 --> 01:46:19,449
of things allow us to communicate with

2439
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:22,150
these things go ahead I'm sorry I

2440
01:46:26,729 --> 01:46:25,330
finished up there J yeah groundbreaking

2441
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:26,739
you know what I mean if we could start

2442
01:46:30,630 --> 01:46:29,170
to prove this stuff which it looks like

2443
01:46:33,209 --> 01:46:30,640
we're kind of going in that direction to

2444
01:46:35,220 --> 01:46:33,219
me and that's gonna be groundbreaking

2445
01:46:37,410 --> 01:46:35,230
and I think that's probably at least

2446
01:46:40,290 --> 01:46:37,420
from my perspective that's the thing

2447
01:46:41,970 --> 01:46:40,300
that yeah I think is more important if

2448
01:46:43,380 --> 01:46:41,980
there's this thing that's going on and

2449
01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:43,390
there is this other reality or these

2450
01:46:48,150 --> 01:46:45,790
other spatial dimensions however it

2451
01:46:49,770 --> 01:46:48,160
works you know if we can prove that in

2452
01:46:51,450 --> 01:46:49,780
any kind of way Wow you know that's just

2453
01:46:54,300 --> 01:46:51,460
gonna completely change the world much

2454
01:46:58,560 --> 01:46:54,310
more than any kind of disclosure on

2455
01:47:03,169 --> 01:46:58,570
extraterrestrials yeah let me jump in

2456
01:47:06,930 --> 01:47:03,179
here real quick James this may be

2457
01:47:09,540 --> 01:47:06,940
related to to a couple CIA docs that

2458
01:47:12,060 --> 01:47:09,550
turned us by a while back we had him

2459
01:47:15,330 --> 01:47:12,070
over at my group a couple CIA doc saw

2460
01:47:17,750 --> 01:47:15,340
one of them was a resignation letter

2461
01:47:21,290 --> 01:47:17,760
from put off to the government

2462
01:47:24,780 --> 01:47:21,300
apparently as he was ready to go off and

2463
01:47:26,910 --> 01:47:24,790
work it in an earth tank in Austin Texas

2464
01:47:28,979 --> 01:47:26,920
and it mentioned that the reason he was

2465
01:47:31,530 --> 01:47:28,989
going to was to work on something called

2466
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:31,540
psycho energetics which was the term I'd

2467
01:47:36,120 --> 01:47:33,610
never heard before and there was another

2468
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:36,130
doc in there as well that that proposed

2469
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:39,040
to study into this very field so this

2470
01:47:42,630 --> 01:47:40,510
could be a new term for something we're

2471
01:47:44,669 --> 01:47:42,640
already well familiar with I'm not sure

2472
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:44,679
if anybody has come across the term

2473
01:47:50,010 --> 01:47:47,650
before but but let's get a little bit of

2474
01:47:52,340 --> 01:47:50,020
feedback on that psycho energetics

2475
01:47:55,050 --> 01:47:52,350
any thoughts on what that might entail

2476
01:47:57,210 --> 01:47:55,060
well I just want to go back to what Jay

2477
01:47:58,620 --> 01:47:57,220
was saying real quick in that

2478
01:48:00,570 --> 01:47:58,630
you know he's talking about these papers

2479
01:48:03,090 --> 01:48:00,580
and there's possibly a quantum

2480
01:48:05,310 --> 01:48:03,100
entanglement where the the phenomenon

2481
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:05,320
can be interacted with and as all you

2482
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:06,970
guys know I'm watching my project next

2483
01:48:12,090 --> 01:48:09,370
year cool engaging the phenomena and I

2484
01:48:14,270 --> 01:48:12,100
want to say on some at least antidote

2485
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:14,280
the level that's already been done with

2486
01:48:19,260 --> 01:48:17,650
ce-5 it's a you know a repeatable

2487
01:48:24,900 --> 01:48:19,270
experiment just that anybody can do

2488
01:48:27,630 --> 01:48:24,910
where you can Coralie intention or that

2489
01:48:30,690 --> 01:48:27,640
kind of the use of consciousness with

2490
01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:30,700
you ap sightings and and it's not

2491
01:48:36,270 --> 01:48:33,130
something like oh well maybe I mean a

2492
01:48:38,310 --> 01:48:36,280
lot of this born from you know UFO

2493
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:38,320
reports for decades always have some

2494
01:48:42,990 --> 01:48:41,050
kind of tracer trail of a mental

2495
01:48:46,680 --> 01:48:43,000
phenomenon anomalous mental phenomenon

2496
01:48:49,620 --> 01:48:46,690
telepathy the interaction with the UAP

2497
01:48:53,070 --> 01:48:49,630
and the subjects you know who are

2498
01:48:56,340 --> 01:48:53,080
observing it so I want to say on some

2499
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:56,350
level that's already been done that we

2500
01:49:03,030 --> 01:48:58,330
you know they they understand that and I

2501
01:49:06,990 --> 01:49:03,040
think possible extraterrestrial and and

2502
01:49:11,310 --> 01:49:07,000
and both the interdimensional phenomena

2503
01:49:12,810 --> 01:49:11,320
going back or you know eons you know you

2504
01:49:14,580 --> 01:49:12,820
have all these different and I don't

2505
01:49:17,010 --> 01:49:14,590
want to go too deep into this you have

2506
01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:17,020
these different like traditions that

2507
01:49:22,970 --> 01:49:20,290
utilize ritual and and all these

2508
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:22,980
different methods to interact with

2509
01:49:29,180 --> 01:49:25,840
during these wide range of phenomena

2510
01:49:31,650 --> 01:49:29,190
which could be interdimensional or

2511
01:49:34,020 --> 01:49:31,660
angelic or demonic or you know whatever

2512
01:49:36,930 --> 01:49:34,030
you want to put in a box as I try to

2513
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:36,940
explain that and and extraterrestrial or

2514
01:49:42,810 --> 01:49:40,690
you know or physical discs and objects

2515
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:42,820
as well no I just wanted to put that out

2516
01:49:47,340 --> 01:49:45,730
there on that yeah completely agree with

2517
01:49:49,230 --> 01:49:47,350
what you're saying James I think it's

2518
01:49:51,150 --> 01:49:49,240
also with something out not only do we

2519
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:51,160
have scientific papers on this this

2520
01:49:55,020 --> 01:49:52,770
weird kind of quantum entanglement

2521
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:55,030
communication and there's lots of them

2522
01:49:59,280 --> 01:49:57,250
you know it's not just one guy I've seen

2523
01:50:01,770 --> 01:49:59,290
loads of them loads of different people

2524
01:50:03,450 --> 01:50:01,780
the NIT scientists you know Bigelow had

2525
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:03,460
these reports on this stuff it's it's

2526
01:50:08,310 --> 01:50:05,530
pretty well-known in scientific

2527
01:50:10,649 --> 01:50:08,320
communities I think that some of this

2528
01:50:14,279 --> 01:50:10,659
stuff is being hypothesized but

2529
01:50:15,839 --> 01:50:14,289
Jays gone now it's gonna say J just for

2530
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:15,849
you you don't know what I'm saying there

2531
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:17,199
might be an active program right now

2532
01:50:23,009 --> 01:50:19,209
that somebody we know could name Tyler's

2533
01:50:25,439 --> 01:50:23,019
involved with action yeah that's that's

2534
01:50:28,409 --> 01:50:25,449
that's uh you know it's going on right

2535
01:50:30,689 --> 01:50:28,419
now yeah I find bizarre about the

2536
01:50:32,399 --> 01:50:30,699
interdimensional phenomenon and I heard

2537
01:50:35,850 --> 01:50:32,409
think I heard grant camera and say and I

2538
01:50:38,060 --> 01:50:35,860
think a lien protocols also said the

2539
01:50:40,379 --> 01:50:38,070
same thing and I take issue with it

2540
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:40,389
hopefully I'm representing what they

2541
01:50:43,319 --> 01:50:42,010
meant but from my purse for my

2542
01:50:45,750 --> 01:50:43,329
understanding they basically said that

2543
01:50:47,429 --> 01:50:45,760
the intention you have the phenomena

2544
01:50:48,839 --> 01:50:47,439
responds to that in to some extent I

2545
01:50:50,219 --> 01:50:48,849
agree with that but there there is a

2546
01:50:53,250 --> 01:50:50,229
wrench that can be thrown into this

2547
01:50:55,949 --> 01:50:53,260
perspective and that is when you look at

2548
01:50:58,140 --> 01:50:55,959
some of the military / ex-military

2549
01:51:01,560 --> 01:50:58,150
Special Operations personnel that worked

2550
01:51:03,959 --> 01:51:01,570
on the at the skinwalker ranch they were

2551
01:51:06,089 --> 01:51:03,969
followed home by these entities and

2552
01:51:07,830 --> 01:51:06,099
Knapp has said that the more kind of

2553
01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:07,840
confrontational your attitude is the

2554
01:51:11,339 --> 01:51:09,070
more likely you're to have a negative

2555
01:51:13,379 --> 01:51:11,349
experience but here's the problem how

2556
01:51:16,169 --> 01:51:13,389
does anyone account for the fact that

2557
01:51:18,270 --> 01:51:16,179
Knapp also said that the people that are

2558
01:51:20,219 --> 01:51:18,280
seem to be affected the most and this is

2559
01:51:21,629 --> 01:51:20,229
someone can correct me this is was what

2560
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:21,639
I interpreted the people that are

2561
01:51:25,979 --> 01:51:23,010
affected the most are not the

2562
01:51:27,989 --> 01:51:25,989
ex-military special operations people

2563
01:51:30,359 --> 01:51:27,999
who went on to the skinwalker ranch

2564
01:51:32,489 --> 01:51:30,369
property but naps seem to underscore

2565
01:51:35,909 --> 01:51:32,499
that it's the family members the family

2566
01:51:37,379 --> 01:51:35,919
members of the X special operation

2567
01:51:38,969 --> 01:51:37,389
people and you know when you when you

2568
01:51:40,649 --> 01:51:38,979
hear stories like that it almost comes

2569
01:51:41,909 --> 01:51:40,659
off as they're kind of evil like don't

2570
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:41,919
go after the family members if you don't

2571
01:51:45,089 --> 01:51:43,119
like someone go after the person you

2572
01:51:46,859 --> 01:51:45,099
don't like but beyond that and it was

2573
01:51:48,750 --> 01:51:46,869
very fascinating in the phenomenon radio

2574
01:51:49,799 --> 01:51:48,760
interview Knapp even said and he was

2575
01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:49,809
reluctant he didn't really want to talk

2576
01:51:53,969 --> 01:51:52,030
about it he chose not to go into detail

2577
01:51:55,949 --> 01:51:53,979
but he said that he did not have any

2578
01:51:57,929 --> 01:51:55,959
interaction with the phenomena from all

2579
01:52:00,719 --> 01:51:57,939
his visitations to skinwalker ranch but

2580
01:52:05,310 --> 01:52:00,729
that his wife did that's all I want to

2581
01:52:07,109 --> 01:52:05,320
say yeah it is kind of like a mafia

2582
01:52:13,409 --> 01:52:07,119
tactic right like go after their family

2583
01:52:15,540 --> 01:52:13,419
and all I really good is my own and I

2584
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:15,550
think I've shared this with James and

2585
01:52:23,969 --> 01:52:18,489
Frank when I was on this past May but

2586
01:52:24,509 --> 01:52:23,979
like I did I a stupid thing with chaos

2587
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:24,519
man

2588
01:52:30,209 --> 01:52:28,210
and I got a result in my house that was

2589
01:52:33,350 --> 01:52:30,219
the negative one and it didn't affect me

2590
01:52:36,209 --> 01:52:33,360
it affected my wife or my daughter so

2591
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:36,219
you know I see where they're coming from

2592
01:52:42,060 --> 01:52:39,610
and you know I only have this one little

2593
01:52:47,069 --> 01:52:42,070
antidote where there was a Michigan

2594
01:52:48,930 --> 01:52:47,079
MUFON director who was at a conference a

2595
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:48,940
paranormal conference here in Michigan a

2596
01:52:54,209 --> 01:52:51,130
couple years ago and he had to get going

2597
01:52:57,359 --> 01:52:54,219
home but there was a psychic who said I

2598
01:53:00,870 --> 01:52:57,369
can make UFOs appear on demand and he

2599
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:00,880
was very skeptical but some of the

2600
01:53:06,450 --> 01:53:03,280
people that he knew went with this

2601
01:53:08,549 --> 01:53:06,460
psychic and she did she made UFOs appear

2602
01:53:10,680 --> 01:53:08,559
over Lake Michigan and the number of

2603
01:53:13,739 --> 01:53:10,690
them and these people that were with her

2604
01:53:16,169 --> 01:53:13,749
called the Michigan State Director and

2605
01:53:19,830 --> 01:53:16,179
had told him about that and he was blown

2606
01:53:22,859 --> 01:53:19,840
away and then it seems psychic went to

2607
01:53:25,049 --> 01:53:22,869
the Michigan UFO conference and

2608
01:53:29,759 --> 01:53:25,059
basically did the same thing but when he

2609
01:53:32,220 --> 01:53:29,769
was there so I mean I and again my

2610
01:53:34,109 --> 01:53:32,230
question is I don't know with what I'm

2611
01:53:34,470 --> 01:53:34,119
dealing with because there's no there

2612
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:34,480
there

2613
01:53:38,790 --> 01:53:36,639
like I can't dial it up it's not like

2614
01:53:40,770 --> 01:53:38,800
taking a cell phone and calling you

2615
01:53:42,779 --> 01:53:40,780
Rhine or you Frank I know who I'm

2616
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:42,789
calling you're just putting attention

2617
01:53:49,799 --> 01:53:47,650
out into the the quantum what I'm not a

2618
01:53:56,879 --> 01:53:49,809
scientist tonight honestly some of this

2619
01:53:59,580 --> 01:53:56,889
mumbo-jumbo stuff kind of makes me like

2620
01:54:03,720 --> 01:53:59,590
my eyes glaze over because I mean I

2621
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:03,730
understand it but I don't know I just

2622
01:54:08,430 --> 01:54:06,610
from my perspective I see all the all

2623
01:54:11,580 --> 01:54:08,440
the points and I just don't know that

2624
01:54:13,770 --> 01:54:11,590
sometimes people wish they had contact

2625
01:54:15,839 --> 01:54:13,780
with this and really to be honest no you

2626
01:54:18,839 --> 01:54:15,849
don't sometimes because you don't know

2627
01:54:21,060 --> 01:54:18,849
what the only ones yeah yeah one one is

2628
01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:21,070
I've been told by one of our friends

2629
01:54:26,250 --> 01:54:23,230
that basically the people that don't

2630
01:54:29,129 --> 01:54:26,260
care are the least affected so yeah that

2631
01:54:31,109 --> 01:54:29,139
was interesting yeah the other thing I

2632
01:54:33,450 --> 01:54:31,119
wanted to mention and then I will have

2633
01:54:35,069 --> 01:54:33,460
something for Jay but earlier we're

2634
01:54:36,479 --> 01:54:35,079
talking about hot spot that's in

2635
01:54:38,189 --> 01:54:36,489
everything that you guys are saying make

2636
01:54:39,959 --> 01:54:38,199
sense and I believe

2637
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:39,969
but then also we have kind of

2638
01:54:43,740 --> 01:54:41,890
conflicting reports from dr. Eric Davis

2639
01:54:45,870 --> 01:54:43,750
and he made it sound like knids came to

2640
01:54:48,450 --> 01:54:45,880
this conclusion - that there are no hot

2641
01:54:50,939 --> 01:54:48,460
spots and you know you can What did he

2642
01:54:53,189 --> 01:54:50,949
say throw a dart on a map and you'll

2643
01:54:55,140 --> 01:54:53,199
find a lot of the same activity maybe

2644
01:55:02,610 --> 01:54:55,150
because it's just isn't getting studied

2645
01:55:04,890 --> 01:55:02,620
there I my personal perspective is that

2646
01:55:06,689 --> 01:55:04,900
that that's very compelling point but I

2647
01:55:09,150 --> 01:55:06,699
still think that there's probably an

2648
01:55:10,380 --> 01:55:09,160
unusual amount because for example if

2649
01:55:12,630 --> 01:55:10,390
you look at skinwalker ranch and you

2650
01:55:14,419 --> 01:55:12,640
look at the history Oct and you you you

2651
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:14,429
interview a bunch of people in that area

2652
01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:16,210
there will be a much higher percentage

2653
01:55:19,560 --> 01:55:17,650
of people living there who have stories

2654
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:19,570
to tell that if I go to like some town

2655
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:21,520
in Wisconsin and interview people did

2656
01:55:25,080 --> 01:55:24,010
you see X Y Z now maybe you could argue

2657
01:55:26,250 --> 01:55:25,090
that that's there there's more

2658
01:55:28,729 --> 01:55:26,260
susceptible to it or they're more

2659
01:55:31,110 --> 01:55:28,739
they're more credulous I don't know but

2660
01:55:32,970 --> 01:55:31,120
that's it's a compelling point but I

2661
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:32,980
still think there are hot spots to see

2662
01:55:38,430 --> 01:55:36,250
and so many of these stories so many of

2663
01:55:39,840 --> 01:55:38,440
the things we talked about it's just not

2664
01:55:41,580 --> 01:55:39,850
a clear-cut answer and it's not one or

2665
01:55:43,110 --> 01:55:41,590
the other and it's really amazing and

2666
01:55:47,189 --> 01:55:43,120
it's also really really really confusing

2667
01:55:48,870 --> 01:55:47,199
but I want to hear what what Frank I

2668
01:55:51,090 --> 01:55:48,880
would like to hear Jay answer Frank's

2669
01:55:52,620 --> 01:55:51,100
question because that's really his

2670
01:55:57,479 --> 01:55:52,630
specialty what was that term you used to

2671
01:56:00,390 --> 01:55:57,489
rank psychoenergetic I believe so what

2672
01:56:04,020 --> 01:56:00,400
do you think about that Jay well not

2673
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:04,030
really heard too much about it I've

2674
01:56:07,770 --> 01:56:05,530
never heard it before either before I

2675
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:07,780
saw the CIA Docs so it kind of took me

2676
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:10,239
by surprise again I think it could just

2677
01:56:14,610 --> 01:56:12,130
be a different name for something we

2678
01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:14,620
already understand pretty well I'm not

2679
01:56:23,820 --> 01:56:22,270
sure about it with intent isn't it I

2680
01:56:25,380 --> 01:56:23,830
think because there's lots of talk of

2681
01:56:28,110 --> 01:56:25,390
consciousness there's loads and loads of

2682
01:56:29,790 --> 01:56:28,120
Studies on consciousness again and now

2683
01:56:32,459 --> 01:56:29,800
know that some of the reports I think it

2684
01:56:34,590 --> 01:56:32,469
was the CIA had from some of this

2685
01:56:37,979 --> 01:56:34,600
research that came from how put off

2686
01:56:41,340 --> 01:56:37,989
years and years ago was that you know

2687
01:56:44,150 --> 01:56:41,350
you can remotely influence people so you

2688
01:56:46,860 --> 01:56:44,160
can actually change somebody's intent

2689
01:56:48,150 --> 01:56:46,870
just by willing it to happen to some

2690
01:56:49,560 --> 01:56:48,160
extent I mean I don't know too much

2691
01:56:51,540 --> 01:56:49,570
about it or how it's done or anything

2692
01:56:53,750 --> 01:56:51,550
like that I've definitely seen

2693
01:56:57,840 --> 01:56:53,760
some of these reports and there was the

2694
01:56:59,640 --> 01:56:57,850
suggestion in this CIA document that the

2695
01:57:03,300 --> 01:56:59,650
US government were worried about Russia

2696
01:57:05,010 --> 01:57:03,310
interfering with certain people's you

2697
01:57:07,110 --> 01:57:05,020
know views and trying to influence them

2698
01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:07,120
one way or another but that's about all

2699
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:08,650
I can say on it I don't know too much

2700
01:57:15,540 --> 01:57:11,110
else but if consciousness we look to

2701
01:57:17,940 --> 01:57:15,550
magic and you know esoteric staff we can

2702
01:57:19,500 --> 01:57:17,950
say that lots of these kind of religions

2703
01:57:22,290 --> 01:57:19,510
of these ancient religions seem to

2704
01:57:23,370 --> 01:57:22,300
suggest consciousness is fundamental we

2705
01:57:24,900 --> 01:57:23,380
know that there's been loads and loads

2706
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:24,910
of talk about consciousness about these

2707
01:57:29,460 --> 01:57:26,770
people they look like DeLong and stuff

2708
01:57:31,980 --> 01:57:29,470
like that so if we consider

2709
01:57:34,590 --> 01:57:31,990
consciousness being somewhat fundamental

2710
01:57:37,530 --> 01:57:34,600
and you're kind of making your reality

2711
01:57:39,330 --> 01:57:37,540
with the way you perceive things then I

2712
01:57:41,370 --> 01:57:39,340
guess you know these psycho energetics

2713
01:57:43,050 --> 01:57:41,380
or whatever you want to call it you know

2714
01:57:45,630 --> 01:57:43,060
you could probably will certain things

2715
01:57:46,950 --> 01:57:45,640
to happen depending on belief structures

2716
01:57:49,770 --> 01:57:46,960
and these kind of things but you know

2717
01:57:52,140 --> 01:57:49,780
that's just my my assumption well

2718
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:52,150
Jason's you have the floor and you had

2719
01:57:55,580 --> 01:57:53,530
that brought up that you wanted to get

2720
01:57:59,480 --> 01:57:55,590
into a little bit of a discussion about

2721
01:58:02,430 --> 01:57:59,490
patents related to reverse engineering

2722
01:58:06,450 --> 01:58:02,440
that type of thing so what do you have

2723
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:06,460
for us on that particular area yeah so I

2724
01:58:11,940 --> 01:58:08,850
kind of didn't hear too much about

2725
01:58:15,060 --> 01:58:11,950
implants the you know these kind of in

2726
01:58:17,880 --> 01:58:15,070
inverted commas alien implants blow

2727
01:58:20,130 --> 01:58:17,890
watched Jeremy corbels patient 17 and I

2728
01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:20,140
also watch some YouTube documentary

2729
01:58:22,980 --> 01:58:21,760
about it and I found it quite quite an

2730
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:22,990
interesting subject that these people

2731
01:58:29,040 --> 01:58:25,810
are finding these devices these strange

2732
01:58:31,020 --> 01:58:29,050
metals that have odd isotopic ratios

2733
01:58:33,210 --> 01:58:31,030
that don't appear to be from this solar

2734
01:58:35,130 --> 01:58:33,220
system and they've just find them in

2735
01:58:38,190 --> 01:58:35,140
their leg or their in their neck or in

2736
01:58:41,250 --> 01:58:38,200
their brain or wherever else it is and

2737
01:58:42,660 --> 01:58:41,260
we know that during the third report so

2738
01:58:45,810 --> 01:58:42,670
George Knapp had released this report

2739
01:58:47,220 --> 01:58:45,820
with all these I think it's 14 sample 37

2740
01:58:50,610 --> 01:58:47,230
something like that at these scientific

2741
01:58:55,620 --> 01:58:50,620
reports now one of them was a bot guy a

2742
01:58:57,900 --> 01:58:55,630
guy called Bruce toe towa tower you were

2743
01:59:01,500 --> 01:58:57,910
however you want to say it but this guy

2744
01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:01,510
has a patent on something that looks an

2745
01:59:05,490 --> 01:59:04,690
awful lot like an alien implant you know

2746
01:59:08,580 --> 01:59:05,500
what I mean in you

2747
01:59:10,590 --> 01:59:08,590
through this patent and it seems to

2748
01:59:14,130 --> 01:59:10,600
describe exactly what Jeremy Caldwell

2749
01:59:16,770 --> 01:59:14,140
showed in his film patient 17 the

2750
01:59:18,870 --> 01:59:16,780
descriptions of the device sound and

2751
01:59:21,120 --> 01:59:18,880
look exactly like the devices from

2752
01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:21,130
within this film it's incredible and if

2753
01:59:28,950 --> 01:59:24,130
this guy was preparing this scientific

2754
01:59:30,780 --> 01:59:28,960
report for the Pentagon on I think it's

2755
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:30,790
that's more I can't remember the name of

2756
01:59:34,830 --> 01:59:33,010
the report top of my head it seems like

2757
01:59:37,890 --> 01:59:34,840
he's had some exposure to these things

2758
01:59:40,500 --> 01:59:37,900
and now he's got a patent so he's kind

2759
01:59:42,930 --> 01:59:40,510
of painted thing this technology that

2760
01:59:44,010 --> 01:59:42,940
he's been researching and now you know

2761
01:59:46,650 --> 01:59:44,020
kind of where do you really draw the

2762
01:59:48,330 --> 01:59:46,660
line with this stuff you know can you

2763
01:59:49,860 --> 01:59:48,340
really patent something that's come from

2764
01:59:52,230 --> 01:59:49,870
somewhere else you know if it's

2765
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:52,240
non-human you know kind of work what are

2766
01:59:56,610 --> 01:59:54,130
the rules on this stuff and again the

2767
02:00:03,480 --> 01:59:56,620
same thing what the rules are if you get

2768
02:00:05,220 --> 02:00:03,490
the patented versus your patent that was

2769
02:00:07,830 --> 02:00:05,230
one of the things that there Gary Nolan

2770
02:00:09,450 --> 02:00:07,840
mentioned when we did our little AMA

2771
02:00:12,870 --> 02:00:09,460
that turned into an article over at my

2772
02:00:15,180 --> 02:00:12,880
website if he knew what this stuff I was

2773
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:15,190
actually what its purpose was he'd be

2774
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:17,770
filing patents right now well we've seen

2775
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:19,450
the other ones as well you know what I

2776
02:00:22,170 --> 02:00:20,770
mean there was wonderful meta materials

2777
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:22,180
so I was hunting around think it was the

2778
02:00:27,120 --> 02:00:24,730
Los Alamos they released this painting

2779
02:00:29,190 --> 02:00:27,130
metamaterials you know I'm just kind of

2780
02:00:30,660 --> 02:00:29,200
drawing two conclusions I don't know

2781
02:00:32,250 --> 02:00:30,670
that any of this stuff is because

2782
02:00:34,530 --> 02:00:32,260
they've researched these materials that

2783
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:34,540
found from crash sites or whatever I

2784
02:00:39,630 --> 02:00:36,850
don't know but it sounds like the way

2785
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:39,640
they describe it is if they've found

2786
02:00:42,420 --> 02:00:40,810
these materials they've been working

2787
02:00:44,310 --> 02:00:42,430
with it trying to understand what it

2788
02:00:46,620 --> 02:00:44,320
does once they get to some sort of

2789
02:00:48,270 --> 02:00:46,630
conclusion as to what they think the

2790
02:00:50,670 --> 02:00:48,280
purpose of it is that releasing these

2791
02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:50,680
patents for it and the meta materials

2792
02:00:57,780 --> 02:00:54,910
one talks about formatting or creating

2793
02:00:59,370 --> 02:00:57,790
these layered material so it might be

2794
02:01:01,440 --> 02:00:59,380
metal with some other material in

2795
02:01:04,110 --> 02:01:01,450
between or layered different types of

2796
02:01:06,090 --> 02:01:04,120
metals and then if you radiate these

2797
02:01:09,390 --> 02:01:06,100
metals with terahertz frequencies or

2798
02:01:11,610 --> 02:01:09,400
micro microwave frequencies it

2799
02:01:13,500 --> 02:01:11,620
essentially gives you complete cloaking

2800
02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:13,510
and then the patent itself it refers to

2801
02:01:18,990 --> 02:01:16,480
perfect cloaking is how it describes it

2802
02:01:21,590 --> 02:01:19,000
I think it's something like perfect or

2803
02:01:24,210 --> 02:01:21,600
complete cloaking or whatever and that's

2804
02:01:25,890 --> 02:01:24,220
incredible you know we haven't seen any

2805
02:01:30,420 --> 02:01:25,900
of this stuff before right we've never

2806
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:30,430
seen my okay I would disagree J and you

2807
02:01:36,030 --> 02:01:32,770
need to read the book Emilio it talks

2808
02:01:40,230 --> 02:01:36,040
about a a heroin addict who gets his

2809
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:40,240
hands on a government computer and some

2810
02:01:45,210 --> 02:01:42,310
night-vision goggles and then he's

2811
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:45,220
fouled for the next couple years up

2812
02:01:52,590 --> 02:01:49,450
until 2016 he's followed by people who

2813
02:01:55,890 --> 02:01:52,600
have adaptive camouflage and one of the

2814
02:01:58,920 --> 02:01:55,900
and I I know Danny has heard me talk

2815
02:02:02,430 --> 02:01:58,930
about this before but there was a case

2816
02:02:05,130 --> 02:02:02,440
that I worked on just tangental I can't

2817
02:02:07,260 --> 02:02:05,140
use that word tension tool anyways I

2818
02:02:11,030 --> 02:02:07,270
worked on it from the side I was not the

2819
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:11,040
primary investigator but there was a I

2820
02:02:19,110 --> 02:02:14,650
also say paranormal investigator in San

2821
02:02:21,630 --> 02:02:19,120
Diego who came to me for a podcast and I

2822
02:02:24,600 --> 02:02:21,640
was mentioning to the stars before there

2823
02:02:27,540 --> 02:02:24,610
were two stars and then he just briefly

2824
02:02:30,390 --> 02:02:27,550
mentioned that he had in his paranormal

2825
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:30,400
group an FBI agent who had all this cool

2826
02:02:34,980 --> 02:02:33,370
technology that would come to his their

2827
02:02:37,350 --> 02:02:34,990
group when they would go to these

2828
02:02:41,790 --> 02:02:37,360
paranormal places and he'd have all this

2829
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:41,800
cool tech and this FBI agent was working

2830
02:02:48,390 --> 02:02:45,010
on a case where it was in a hospital a

2831
02:02:51,420 --> 02:02:48,400
nurse on the sixth floor of the San

2832
02:02:54,420 --> 02:02:51,430
Diego Hospital I don't know the name I

2833
02:02:57,480 --> 02:02:54,430
know the podcaster knows the name of the

2834
02:03:00,450 --> 02:02:57,490
hospital and he was scared to death when

2835
02:03:03,210 --> 02:03:00,460
I asked him was it a hospital that dealt

2836
02:03:05,550 --> 02:03:03,220
with in you know poor people or people

2837
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:05,560
who have drug problems he said yeah

2838
02:03:10,470 --> 02:03:07,810
that's a it was a community hospital in

2839
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:10,480
his hair stood on the back of his head

2840
02:03:14,970 --> 02:03:12,850
he was like how would you know that I go

2841
02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:14,980
I don't but you know I've read this book

2842
02:03:21,690 --> 02:03:17,800
Emilio and they generally test this

2843
02:03:24,090 --> 02:03:21,700
adaptive camouflage technology on these

2844
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:24,100
people were and I know it's gonna sound

2845
02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:27,730
crazy but this FBI agent had a picture

2846
02:03:33,030 --> 02:03:30,730
from this nurse and I had the picture

2847
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:33,040
still where this

2848
02:03:37,290 --> 02:03:36,010
first said this thing came towards them

2849
02:03:40,290 --> 02:03:37,300
now we don't know if the nurse was a

2850
02:03:42,930 --> 02:03:40,300
mere a male or female but this thing

2851
02:03:45,270 --> 02:03:42,940
came towards them and it looked like the

2852
02:03:47,130 --> 02:03:45,280
camouflage from the movie predator so

2853
02:03:50,940 --> 02:03:47,140
what everything was behind was being

2854
02:03:54,690 --> 02:03:50,950
reflected to the front and it came up to

2855
02:03:57,390 --> 02:03:54,700
them maybe 10 15 feet backed away and

2856
02:03:59,940 --> 02:03:57,400
that's when the nurse took a picture

2857
02:04:03,270 --> 02:03:59,950
when it was walking away now the photo

2858
02:04:05,820 --> 02:04:03,280
itself looks like honestly looks like

2859
02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:05,830
just smoke and it looks like from a

2860
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:09,490
premonition by the apparition and I've

2861
02:04:17,310 --> 02:04:12,930
had photo experts look at it and they

2862
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:17,320
concur that it really is there it's not

2863
02:04:24,180 --> 02:04:21,370
like been doctored in any way the other

2864
02:04:27,450 --> 02:04:24,190
crazy part to this was the fact that I

2865
02:04:30,270 --> 02:04:27,460
said SAIC was one of the companies that

2866
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:30,280
was doing this they filed patents for

2867
02:04:38,940 --> 02:04:35,530
this cloaking technology and long behold

2868
02:04:40,770 --> 02:04:38,950
the FBI agent to them soon dies two

2869
02:04:44,940 --> 02:04:40,780
weeks later after this photo was

2870
02:04:47,670 --> 02:04:44,950
released and I just know that they have

2871
02:04:49,950 --> 02:04:47,680
worked on this before I'm not trying to

2872
02:04:52,650 --> 02:04:49,960
throw what blanket and you J I love your

2873
02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:52,660
work you were your the document and I

2874
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:55,210
couldn't do that I give you mad props by

2875
02:05:01,260 --> 02:04:56,890
the book that you need to check out was

2876
02:05:03,420 --> 02:05:01,270
camellia it it describes Robert Guffey's

2877
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:03,430
friend who like I said he was a heroin

2878
02:05:09,150 --> 02:05:05,770
act I know that's less than stellar to

2879
02:05:13,050 --> 02:05:09,160
take his word but this guy was messed

2880
02:05:16,730 --> 02:05:13,060
with for so long all kinds of stuff what

2881
02:05:18,870 --> 02:05:16,740
I was gonna say is the MKULTRA the CIA

2882
02:05:21,810 --> 02:05:18,880
in fact they're getting in trouble for

2883
02:05:26,790 --> 02:05:21,820
it right now they were wanting to use

2884
02:05:29,640 --> 02:05:26,800
truth serum drugs on Gitmo detainees so

2885
02:05:34,080 --> 02:05:29,650
the CIA definitely knows how to use

2886
02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:34,090
intent and how to get people to tell the

2887
02:05:40,350 --> 02:05:35,710
truth or tell them what they want to

2888
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:40,360
hear but yeah I jumping in about their

2889
02:05:44,700 --> 02:05:42,400
camouflage incapabilities are that's a

2890
02:05:47,340 --> 02:05:44,710
subject that has long been of interest

2891
02:05:49,260 --> 02:05:47,350
to the military for obvious

2892
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:49,270
now we've talked about these different

2893
02:05:55,140 --> 02:05:51,760
military organizations rebranding but

2894
02:05:57,360 --> 02:05:55,150
one that has it for a decade going back

2895
02:05:59,760 --> 02:05:57,370
to at least that the post-world War two

2896
02:06:01,260 --> 02:05:59,770
ERA is the Bureau of naval research

2897
02:06:02,850 --> 02:06:01,270
there's still the bureau of naval

2898
02:06:05,420 --> 02:06:02,860
research after all these years and

2899
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:05,430
they've been involved in funding

2900
02:06:11,370 --> 02:06:08,890
university studies to figure out how an

2901
02:06:13,740 --> 02:06:11,380
octopus can camouflage itself so

2902
02:06:14,970 --> 02:06:13,750
perfectly and do it completely naturally

2903
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:14,980
they don't have any kind of technology

2904
02:06:22,050 --> 02:06:20,170
they just you know brush up against some

2905
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:22,060
seaweed or whatever and all of a sudden

2906
02:06:25,440 --> 02:06:23,770
within a matter of seconds they can look

2907
02:06:27,390 --> 02:06:25,450
just like that seaweed you can't tell

2908
02:06:30,260 --> 02:06:27,400
it's an octopus there it's really

2909
02:06:34,710 --> 02:06:30,270
amazing if you see what some of these

2910
02:06:35,610 --> 02:06:34,720
octopuses can do and again you've got to

2911
02:06:38,850 --> 02:06:35,620
see it for yourself

2912
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:38,860
but there's the yeah the military uh

2913
02:06:42,570 --> 02:06:40,810
definitely wants the camouflaging

2914
02:06:44,340 --> 02:06:42,580
technology no doubt about it they've

2915
02:06:46,710 --> 02:06:44,350
been working at it for a long time and

2916
02:06:47,540 --> 02:06:46,720
apparently through most fillets of

2917
02:06:51,180 --> 02:06:47,550
trying it out

2918
02:06:53,700 --> 02:06:51,190
technologically looking at biological

2919
02:06:59,370 --> 02:06:53,710
species that can do it all manner of

2920
02:07:00,450 --> 02:06:59,380
different ways birds and for anyone

2921
02:07:01,860 --> 02:07:00,460
listening that doesn't know what a dirt

2922
02:07:04,110 --> 02:07:01,870
is it's the defense intelligent

2923
02:07:07,830 --> 02:07:04,120
reference document and they're from the

2924
02:07:09,870 --> 02:07:07,840
asset program via bass but you got the

2925
02:07:12,120 --> 02:07:09,880
invisibility cloak in which is number

2926
02:07:14,610 --> 02:07:12,130
seven and that's by dr. Lyon art I think

2927
02:07:17,610 --> 02:07:14,620
is how you pronounce his name this is

2928
02:07:21,770 --> 02:07:17,620
from the nap the nap der list and then

2929
02:07:24,620 --> 02:07:21,780
the other Danny you break it up

2930
02:07:29,640 --> 02:07:24,630
referencing was on can you hear me now

2931
02:07:32,190 --> 02:07:29,650
yeah the note the other two that I think

2932
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:32,200
Jay was talking about by Bruce toe is uh

2933
02:07:39,390 --> 02:07:36,130
number six which is biosensors bio MEMS

2934
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:39,400
MEMS and then also number 17 which is

2935
02:07:48,030 --> 02:07:44,110
biomaterials by Brewster yeah and his so

2936
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:48,040
his patent as well talks about these

2937
02:07:52,140 --> 02:07:49,570
devices that are inside people's bodies

2938
02:07:54,060 --> 02:07:52,150
is collecting biometrics so presumably

2939
02:07:58,640 --> 02:07:54,070
testing the Bloods or you know

2940
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:00,479
neuro something

2941
02:08:10,890 --> 02:08:05,850
rather a country girl censoring no no

2942
02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:10,900
llores location I'm gonna throw a wrench

2943
02:08:15,540 --> 02:08:13,390
in this real quick this conversation has

2944
02:08:17,190 --> 02:08:15,550
anybody and I'm gonna mentioning that

2945
02:08:20,310 --> 02:08:17,200
again I'm probably get crisps before

2946
02:08:23,250 --> 02:08:20,320
it's okay Steven Greer with William

2947
02:08:24,900 --> 02:08:23,260
[\h__\h] he's described William [\h__\h]

2948
02:08:27,390 --> 02:08:24,910
is describing to a tee what you're

2949
02:08:29,640 --> 02:08:27,400
talking about Jay that he saw this

2950
02:08:31,620 --> 02:08:29,650
technology being implemented that

2951
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:31,630
Tonopah where they would get these

2952
02:08:37,170 --> 02:08:34,090
implants and they bought a boatload of

2953
02:08:40,550 --> 02:08:37,180
them and they were gonna go into the

2954
02:08:45,420 --> 02:08:40,560
public sphere and they could test or

2955
02:08:47,670 --> 02:08:45,430
monitor all kinds of features of humans

2956
02:08:53,310 --> 02:08:47,680
so you may want to look at that

2957
02:08:56,100 --> 02:08:53,320
interview it's on YouTube the technology

2958
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:56,110
honestly I don't we might have a minor

2959
02:08:59,790 --> 02:08:57,610
variation on that I know that we've got

2960
02:09:01,200 --> 02:08:59,800
implants allow people to gain access to

2961
02:09:04,350 --> 02:09:01,210
buildings these kind of things very

2962
02:09:06,180 --> 02:09:04,360
basic level implants but I don't see how

2963
02:09:07,770 --> 02:09:06,190
at the moment we can collect biometrics

2964
02:09:10,200 --> 02:09:07,780
and people through an implant and then

2965
02:09:14,580 --> 02:09:10,210
send out the signal through some

2966
02:09:16,610 --> 02:09:14,590
frequency I mean we've how much money

2967
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:16,620
have we spent on this topic

2968
02:09:21,510 --> 02:09:19,450
exactly I mean seriously in the u.s. I

2969
02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:21,520
guarantee you trillions of dollars yeah

2970
02:09:24,630 --> 02:09:22,960
yeah you want to include the stealth

2971
02:09:26,070 --> 02:09:24,640
plane technology I would include that

2972
02:09:28,620 --> 02:09:26,080
along with there the whole general

2973
02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:28,630
concept so yeah definitely I mean we

2974
02:09:34,200 --> 02:09:31,090
have wasted a lot of money and I would

2975
02:09:35,550 --> 02:09:34,210
think they'd look at it as investment

2976
02:09:37,440 --> 02:09:35,560
and if you don't get a return on your

2977
02:09:41,010 --> 02:09:37,450
investment they're gonna stop it right

2978
02:09:44,190 --> 02:09:41,020
so at a certain point you had to wonder

2979
02:09:45,990 --> 02:09:44,200
about some of these patents and how far

2980
02:09:49,050 --> 02:09:46,000
they've been able to go with this stuff

2981
02:09:52,350 --> 02:09:49,060
I mean Richard Dolan always talks about

2982
02:09:53,760 --> 02:09:52,360
that scientists at CIA guy that he talks

2983
02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:53,770
to that he's never mentioned his name

2984
02:10:02,070 --> 02:09:56,890
that they the computing power in 1960s

2985
02:10:06,090 --> 02:10:02,080
of the 1990s but in 1960 so I mean

2986
02:10:10,200 --> 02:10:06,100
obviously there's a hidden ability or

2987
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:10,210
hidden I hate to quote him but it

2988
02:10:13,720 --> 02:10:12,850
breakaway civilization so be it I mean

2989
02:10:16,420 --> 02:10:13,730
the kind of

2990
02:10:19,140 --> 02:10:16,430
I mean if Ryan and I are talking that

2991
02:10:21,729 --> 02:10:19,150
there's only 22 people working at s4

2992
02:10:23,260 --> 02:10:21,739
there is a breakaway civilization

2993
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:23,270
because they're not going home and

2994
02:10:27,670 --> 02:10:25,250
talking about that and they know stuff

2995
02:10:30,010 --> 02:10:27,680
that you and I don't know I mean the

2996
02:10:32,380 --> 02:10:30,020
only reason why we know about s4 is

2997
02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:32,390
because a bob lazar right so it's

2998
02:10:39,190 --> 02:10:37,010
interesting point Chris yeah I don't

2999
02:10:47,260 --> 02:10:39,200
know it's too much CVD for me I can't

3000
02:10:49,570 --> 02:10:47,270
keep two hours and ten minutes into this

3001
02:10:51,610 --> 02:10:49,580
we've got that we've had a record crew

3002
02:10:55,570 --> 02:10:51,620
here in death we've got a record length

3003
02:10:57,580 --> 02:10:55,580
of time we've covered all the topics we

3004
02:11:00,430 --> 02:10:57,590
had scheduled does anybody have anything

3005
02:11:03,729 --> 02:11:00,440
else that we haven't covered that they

3006
02:11:04,900 --> 02:11:03,739
you just want to get out this I mean I

3007
02:11:11,380 --> 02:11:04,910
could probably go for another five hours

3008
02:11:12,670 --> 02:11:11,390
but I think yeah I think this is

3009
02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:12,680
probably one of the best around tables

3010
02:11:21,190 --> 02:11:18,290
they've ever been a part of a great

3011
02:11:23,110 --> 02:11:21,200
group here I think we should do it again

3012
02:11:24,970 --> 02:11:23,120
I think we should

3013
02:11:28,240 --> 02:11:24,980
yeah I'm looking at dates here and

3014
02:11:33,340 --> 02:11:28,250
everybody's willing and able you know

3015
02:11:37,900 --> 02:11:33,350
December 16th is a Sunday your

3016
02:11:40,870 --> 02:11:37,910
anniversary your anniversary of the New

3017
02:11:45,370 --> 02:11:40,880
York Times article December 16th is on a

3018
02:11:51,960 --> 02:11:45,380
Sunday hmm I have to see what my wife

3019
02:11:54,430 --> 02:11:51,970
says the boss yeah I pull the fast one

3020
02:11:56,530 --> 02:11:54,440
we got there we got more shows in the

3021
02:11:57,910 --> 02:11:56,540
pipeline now we've got that some pretty

3022
02:12:00,160 --> 02:11:57,920
exciting stuff coming up

3023
02:12:02,650 --> 02:12:00,170
this has been this has been great right

3024
02:12:05,680 --> 02:12:02,660
everybody's good together nothing more

3025
02:12:10,120 --> 02:12:05,690
that they you need to get out today oh I

3026
02:12:12,280 --> 02:12:10,130
could keep talking this is good cut

3027
02:12:14,110 --> 02:12:12,290
point because yeah you know where we're

3028
02:12:16,210 --> 02:12:14,120
at a long time now and you know of

3029
02:12:17,560 --> 02:12:16,220
course all of us you know and for some

3030
02:12:20,590 --> 02:12:17,570
of us this is the first time talking to

3031
02:12:22,810 --> 02:12:20,600
each other yes absolutely so I mean we

3032
02:12:24,610 --> 02:12:22,820
can really go on so this is probably

3033
02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:24,620
good cut point and should probably bring

3034
02:12:28,150 --> 02:12:26,690
this back sometime yeah

3035
02:12:31,120 --> 02:12:28,160
definitely want to do this again now

3036
02:12:34,450 --> 02:12:31,130
Ryan you still with us I'm here and

3037
02:12:36,250 --> 02:12:34,460
present Ryan I was uh I'm honored that

3038
02:12:39,100 --> 02:12:36,260
you decided to come on our show I really

3039
02:12:40,630 --> 02:12:39,110
am and thanks for doing thank you I hope

3040
02:12:42,580 --> 02:12:40,640
to have you back maybe you'll do a whole

3041
02:12:45,189 --> 02:12:42,590
show maybe you'll just do these

3042
02:12:46,990 --> 02:12:45,199
roundtables but it was a real pleasure

3043
02:12:51,580 --> 02:12:47,000
and I really enjoyed your contribution

3044
02:12:54,850 --> 02:12:51,590
Thanks thank you I always are always

3045
02:12:58,120 --> 02:12:54,860
good chat with you sometimes we do it in

3046
02:13:00,310 --> 02:12:58,130
between but we got to do it again on air

3047
02:13:02,140 --> 02:13:00,320
fantastic work today Chris thank you so

3048
02:13:04,180 --> 02:13:02,150
very much yeah thank you thank you for

3049
02:13:06,370 --> 02:13:04,190
all the panel members - Thank You Ryan

3050
02:13:08,500 --> 02:13:06,380
Thank You Danny Thank You Jay thank you

3051
02:13:12,250 --> 02:13:08,510
Frank and thank you James for having

3052
02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:12,260
aside it's a real honor you bet and Jay

3053
02:13:18,100 --> 02:13:14,650
again thanks for having thanks for

3054
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:18,110
having the time there to come out here

3055
02:13:22,570 --> 02:13:20,810
and join us it was it was fantastic I

3056
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:22,580
really do appreciate it I really

3057
02:13:28,030 --> 02:13:24,890
appreciate the invite thanks Frank nice

3058
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:28,040
big tool yes yes absolutely and Danny

3059
02:13:32,530 --> 02:13:30,410
you're the guy who's really out there

3060
02:13:35,020 --> 02:13:32,540
plugging along who knows I we we might

3061
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:35,030
have to have you back maybe dad just

3062
02:13:39,610 --> 02:13:37,370
about every week you're always over

3063
02:13:41,709 --> 02:13:39,620
there I got got your website going

3064
02:13:43,120 --> 02:13:41,719
congratulations on that I thanks again

3065
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:43,130
for coming on that Danny and I

3066
02:13:45,970 --> 02:13:45,170
appreciate that your little school for

3067
02:13:48,220 --> 02:13:45,980
us there this morning

3068
02:13:49,630 --> 02:13:48,230
huh thanks so much I really really love

3069
02:13:51,459 --> 02:13:49,640
you guys and I really love being on the

3070
02:13:53,709 --> 02:13:51,469
show I would do as many episodes as I

3071
02:13:56,140 --> 02:13:53,719
possibly can forever and I do want to

3072
02:13:59,200 --> 02:13:56,150
thank everyone else um you know we get

3073
02:14:00,959 --> 02:13:59,210
the scientist Jay and Chris Ryan James

3074
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:00,969
and Frank everyone is just so great and

3075
02:14:05,260 --> 02:14:03,170
it just seems like it wasn't this

3076
02:14:06,760 --> 02:14:05,270
morning I thought that we broke that

3077
02:14:08,530 --> 02:14:06,770
news it was earlier the south it just

3078
02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:08,540
seems like it was daylight out with that

3079
02:14:13,900 --> 02:14:12,320
house a little while here and that last

3080
02:14:15,580 --> 02:14:13,910
but not least I want to thank you James

3081
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:15,590
cuz you put this thing together now this

3082
02:14:20,020 --> 02:14:17,810
was fantastic thank you so very much it

3083
02:14:23,100 --> 02:14:20,030
I'm just glad to be a small part of it

3084
02:14:25,510 --> 02:14:23,110
and work the boards a little bit and

3085
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:25,520
thanks again James I appreciate it

3086
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:28,010
oh thank you Frank thank you this I mean

3087
02:14:33,340 --> 02:14:29,930
this is this is amazing that we're able

3088
02:14:35,860 --> 02:14:33,350
to do this and put this together so for

3089
02:14:37,990 --> 02:14:35,870
tomorrow James is such a great guy

3090
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,000
anytime I have a question I can hit him

3091
02:14:43,860 --> 02:14:40,000
up for personal advice and he's always

3092
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:43,870
talk to me so thanks James it could be a

3093
02:14:54,840 --> 02:14:45,490
little sideline for you James giving out

3094
02:14:59,070 --> 02:14:54,850
personal advice people who know me know

3095
02:15:06,120 --> 02:14:59,080
you know they don't like to help dreams

3096
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:06,130
as Buddha Paul now out guys and thanks

3097
02:15:10,140 --> 02:15:08,110
again for everything and everybody

3098
02:15:12,690 --> 02:15:10,150
listening I think we had a record

3099
02:15:14,040 --> 02:15:12,700
audience we got a lot of promotion out

3100
02:15:16,980 --> 02:15:14,050
of this before we got started I think we

3101
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:16,990
had a record audience watching us live

3102
02:15:21,270 --> 02:15:19,360
up up over 30 when I checked it might

3103
02:15:23,130 --> 02:15:21,280
even be higher who knows but thanks